Harris: Buddhism versus Islam Core Principles

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Spectrum
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Harris: Buddhism versus Islam Core Principles

Post by Spectrum » June 5th, 2018, 5:21 am

Buddhism is often blamed for being violent because SOME Buddhists did riot and commit violence. I believe, this accusation is based on ignorance of Buddhism's core principles of pacifism.

Sam Harris compares Islam to Buddhism
Why Islam is Inherently and Malignantly Evil while Buddhism [& Janism] are not.
One point to note in this video is Harris mentioned there were no Tibetans rioting in Tibets despite the oppression of Tibetans in the past and in the present. However,
The 2008 Tibetan unrest, also referred to as the 3-14 Riots[1] in Chinese media,[2] was a series of riots, protests, and demonstrations that started in the Tibetan regional capital of Lhasa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Tibetan_unrest
The Tibetans like the Myanmmar Buddhists did riot and committed violence but as I have argued many times, these evil prone believers who happened to be Buddhists were not inspired by Buddhism per-se.
Since Tibet and Myanmar's majority of people are Buddhists by birth and customs, re Normal Distribution [Bell Curve] there are bound to be a % of people who are inherently evil prone. These % of evil prone lack good impulse control and thus are vulnerable to riot, not by unilaterally by their own initiatives but in response to the oppression of the communist regime and in Myanmar's case, against the evident threat of Islamization.

In contrast to Buddhism [and other pacifist religions] Islam is inherently and malignantly evil and violent.

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Karpel Tunnel
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Re: Harris: Buddhism versus Islam Core Principles

Post by Karpel Tunnel » June 5th, 2018, 11:28 am

As always, it bears repeating, I dislike Islam.
However 1) perhaps not rioting is a problem when dealing with oppressive governments. Or being passive, seeing changes in society as mere changing forms. I do think there is a tendency inside Buddhism for people to accept what is not good, to not be attached to goals and preferences - which might include things like justice and democracy. Of course Buddhist do protest, but perhaps there is a problem in the opposite direction with Buddhism. 2) I don't see how rioting is necessarily a problem in contexts where the powers that be are themselves carrying out evil actions.

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