Inventing a new religion

Discuss philosophical questions regarding theism (and atheism), and discuss religion as it relates to philosophy. This includes any philosophical discussions that happen to be about god, gods, or a 'higher power' or the belief of them. This also generally includes philosophical topics about organized or ritualistic mysticism or about organized, common or ritualistic beliefs in the existence of supernatural phenomenon.
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Re: Inventing a new religion

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Rr6 wrote:Religion stems from spirit.
Spirit-1 is metaphyscial-1, mind/intellect/concept--- spirit-of-intent ---,
Spirit-2 is physical/energy ergo fermions, bosons and any aggregate combination thereof,
Spirit-3 is gravity-- positive shaped outer surface arcs of a torus-like shape,
Spirit-4 is dark energy-- negative shaped outer surface arcs of a torus-like shape.
Morals stem from humans having some common agreements of fair play Absolute truths stem from discoveries regarding our finite, occupied space Universe.r6
Did you get this from something written by L Ron Hubbard?
No. If you want to add too, or invalidate my comments, as stated, please share. Rational, logical common sense is my preference for having a discussion.

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Re: Inventing a new religion

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Rr6 wrote:
Rr6 wrote:Religion stems from spirit.
Spirit-1 is metaphyscial-1, mind/intellect/concept--- spirit-of-intent ---,
Spirit-2 is physical/energy ergo fermions, bosons and any aggregate combination thereof,
Spirit-3 is gravity-- positive shaped outer surface arcs of a torus-like shape,
Spirit-4 is dark energy-- negative shaped outer surface arcs of a torus-like shape.
Morals stem from humans having some common agreements of fair play Absolute truths stem from discoveries regarding our finite, occupied space Universe.r6
Did you get this from something written by L Ron Hubbard?
No. If you want to add too, or invalidate my comments, as stated, please share. Rational, logical common sense is my preference for having a discussion.

r6

Do you have a source for this?
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Rr6 wrote:
Rr6 wrote:Religion stems from spirit.
Spirit-1 is metaphyscial-1, mind/intellect/concept--- spirit-of-intent ---,
Spirit-2 is physical/energy ergo fermions, bosons and any aggregate combination thereof,
Spirit-3 is gravity-- positive shaped outer surface arcs of a torus-like shape,
Spirit-4 is dark energy-- negative shaped outer surface arcs of a torus-like shape.
Morals stem from humans having some common agreements of fair play Absolute truths stem from discoveries regarding our finite, occupied space Universe.r6
Did you get this from something written by L Ron Hubbard?
No. If you want to add too, or invalidate my comments, as stated, please share. Rational, logical common sense is my preference for having a discussion.
r6
Do you have a source for this?
Source? Uh r6 is the source. Why would you think the source is other than myself, r6?

Again, if you want to add too or invalidate my comments as stated please share with rational, logical common sense.

Here as follows will help you to get a more comprehensive understanding of where I'm coming from via my cosmic trinity, that, is the short opening to my cosmic heirarchy.

1} "U"niverse;

...1a} metpahyscial-1, mind/intellect/concept...and resultant spirit-of-intent...

--------------line-of-demarcation--------------------------

...1b} macro-infinite, non-occupied space, that, embraces the following,

...2c} finite, occupied space Universe aka Uni-Verse.

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Re: Inventing a new religion

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Rr6 wrote:
Source? Uh r6 is the source.
Your own mind is not a source unless you want to explain how you came to know whatever it is you seem to think you know.

Again, if you want to add too or invalidate my comments
No it's for you to valifdate your statements by giving a source or explaining what you know and why. You can't just make random statements as fact that's not philosophy.

stated please share with rational, logical common sense.
You have to explain why it is rational logical common sense not just state that it is and we have to take your word for it. We will be the judge of whether it's rational common or not.

Here as follows will help you to get a more comprehensive understanding of where I'm coming from via my cosmic trinity, that, is the short opening to my cosmic heirarchy.



Again cite your sources for this or explain how you came to know about your cosmic whatever it is you have provide some substantiation here. If you have some kind of special mystical power that allows you to simply know things then explain what that power is and how you came to acquire it at the very least.
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Rr6 wrote:Source? Uh r6 is the source.
Blake--Your own mind is not a source unless you want to explain how you came to know whatever it is you seem to think you know.
Blake it is obvious you have no interest in having a rational logical common sense discussion with me. I feel you lack any sincerity of heart.

My 'mind' in conjunction with my experiences are the source You seem to clueless to common sense in those regards. There is no access to 'mind' that exists is not accompanied by occupied space.

I'm not going to waste much time explaining my life experiences to you as I feel you lack the sincerity of heart to be of any relevant significance in any discussion with me.

Beyond not having sincerity of heart, and rational logical common sense comments to offer, I feel you have nothing of any significance to offer me, or others.

Please share if you do decide to have sincerity of heart, and rational, logical common sense that address my comments as stated with additional info that adds to or invalidates them.


Spirit-1 is metaphyscial-1, mind/intellect/concept--- spirit-of-intent ---
,

Spirit-2 is physical/energy ergo fermions, bosons and any aggregate combination thereof,

Spirit-3 is gravity-- positive shaped outer surface arcs of a torus-like shape,
...metaphysical-3.......

Spirit-4 is dark energy-- negative shaped outer surface arcs of a torus-like shape.
...metaphysical-4.......................

Morals stem from humans having some common agreements of fair play Absolute truths stem from discoveries regarding our finite, occupied space Universe.r6

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Rr6 wrote:
Morals stem from humans having some common agreements of fair play
People don't agree about fair play. For instance at this very important juncture in American history Mr Trump has different ideas from Mrs Clinton about what is fair play for whom. How, Rr6, should people arrive at agreement about fair play?
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Rr6--Morals stem from humans having some common agreements of fair play
People don't agree about fair play. For instance at this very important juncture in American history Mr Trump has different ideas from Mrs Clinton about what is fair play for whom. How, Rr6, should people arrive at agreement about fair play?
Some humans, sometimes, do agree about what is fair play ie.. what is fair, in play, in life, in work, in dance, etc.......

Sometimes what is fair, what is fair play is obvious to all concerned to specific set of circumstances and they communicate their common common agreement as to what is fair/fair play.

Other times is not as clearly obvious as to what is fair/fair play. So more communication is needed.

Ex your reply to me is a form of communication to discuss what is fair/fair play. This reply above by you is a minimal start by you, that I think is long over due, based on my experiences of your not treating me fairly/fair play, some days or week past, in some other thread "supernatural"{?}.

Communication can resolve 80% of human conflict, or so I've heard. Thx Belinda for coming back, however indirectly, to discuss fairness.

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Rr6 wrote:
Thx Belinda for coming back, however indirectly, to discuss fairness.
It's most important that we all do so. In Britain there is the Referendum on the 23rd of June. In the USA there is the question of the next President of the USA.

What, in your opinion, Rr6, are the criteria of fairness that we should adopt, and why are those criteria special?

From what you write I feel that you support equality and also freedom. However those criteria are often opposed to each other as follows. If people are to be equal there have to be laws that coerce us to be equal, but laws that coerce us to be equal mean that we lose the freedom to do as we like.

I print "socialist" under my posts. From this you can gather that my bias is towards equality and curtailing of freedom.

This curtailing of freedom would be reflected in for instance higher taxation to pay for equality of opportunity for all to access best health care and education. Or the curtailing of freedom leads Americans to restrict the traditional American freedom to buy guns for personal use but allows equality between most people and the smaller number of violent criminals who would be less able to exert unequal power over peaceful people if guns were restricted.
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Thx Belinda for coming back, however indirectly, to discuss fairness.
Belinda,
What, in your opinion, Rr6, are the criteria of fairness that we should adopt, and why are those criteria special?
I addressed fairness directly in specific circumstances in "supernatural" thread, where I felt you were not treating me fairly. IF you want to address fairness with me, that is good specific place with to start.
From what you write I feel that you support equality and also freedom.
One of the biggest differrences on planet is differrence between man *Y* and woman \**/

The suffragettes got women the right to vote in early 1900's.

Ive laid out clearly in some other threads metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept equality of man and woman as two halves of parrellel bisected tetrahedron, wherein both are equal in shape, angles etc........yet, those two are at 90 degrees to each other, at their optimum, and those two their optimum define the basic, minimal 3D { volumetric } structure of Universe, the tetra{4}hedron.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergeti ... 00103.html

No man and woman are equal, no two men are equal, no two women are equal in respect totality of their size, weight color, etc....everybody is differrent not equal. Were al equal in being a biological human ergo 80% water.


The geometrical process I lay out is likened more to some spiritual-like metaphysical-1 aspect, where man and woman are equal, yet operating a 90 degrees to each other, at their optimal place. We can think of this tetrahedron as being more dynamic by conceptually spinning it on its axes and getting 6 great circles.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergeti ... f5511.html

There exist three sets of two great circles that are at 90 degrees to each other in the above link. So we can say man is operating on this spin plane and woman on the other spin plane, and there oriented at 90 degrees to each other.

Again this goes back to some generalities of man and woman think differrently. I can give a list of evidence to support these generalizations of differrences between man and woman.

The most obvious differrence is physical, in that women have a womb/uterious and men have not bodily organ that can be referenced/compared to a womb.

There is much more that can be said, and I have said in other threads here at Philo and other forums.

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