The "One True" religion

Discuss philosophical questions regarding theism (and atheism), and discuss religion as it relates to philosophy. This includes any philosophical discussions that happen to be about god, gods, or a 'higher power' or the belief of them. This also generally includes philosophical topics about organized or ritualistic mysticism or about organized, common or ritualistic beliefs in the existence of supernatural phenomenon.
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Gamnot
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Re: The "One True" religion

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Belindi wrote:Gamnot wrote;
The integral theorist, Ken Wilbur, says that no one is 100% wrong, but I am sure that some are closer to being completely wrong than others. In some cases different religions may be hitting the same target with some being closer to the bulls-eye than others. Because of fixations, conditioning factors and our self created blind spots we cannot know how close to the bulls-eye we are. Some religions or ideologies miss the target altogether.
But dont you agree that some cultures of belief are better than others? Cannot you, personally, come off the fence and declare which beliefs are better than others, and why they are better?

If not, you must be unable to vote in a political election.
I am not in a culture of belief except on the internet. I spend time on Christian Existentialism feeds on face book. I do not have any one favorite philosopher or writer, I am for the most part in tune with the thinking of Soren Kierkegaard the Protestant, Nikolai Berdyeav from Orthodoxy, Gabriel Marcel the Catholic, A. J. Herschel the Jewish scholar, Jose Ortega Y Gasset the Spanish philosopher and some others. The aforementioned Christian Existentialists are more concrete, logically tight, and personalistic in their thinking.

In the USA I am able to vote; I can choose between chasing the wind with the conservatives or plowing the sea with the liberals.
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Re: The "One True" religion

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How exactly do you come up with all of that Rr6? :shock: :?

Gamnot, I noticed that you wrote how nobody is 100% wrong - which can be interpreted to read no religion is 100% wrong, which I believe to be very true as well as every religion having a part of the truth - but as a true religion requires 100% of the truth, or at least 100% of the truth given to mankind by deity, then that true religion would have divine communication from God to keep that religion within the parameters that God has set.
To give some examples from the Old Testament, the people who had been raised in the gospel kept on falling away from it into evil, and God kept on having to send prophets to teach the people - whether they would listen or not - and get those who would listen to those prophets back on course. Every time there were not prophets the people kept on falling away. About the time of the birth of Christ, there was a lot of corruption in the leaders of the Jews, the oral law was being placed before the Law of Moses, and Christ came and gave them correct principles, His Apostles and missionaries did the same thing after Christ was gone.
So it seems that revelation is needed from God to man in order to keep religion in order, because if there isn't, then people begin to go astray.
I've brought up this point before, but nobody seems to reply.

(Gamnot, your Christian Existentialists sound like a good bunch.)
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I've brought up this point before, but nobody seems to reply.
Why do you think that is?
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Rr6
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Lark_Truth wrote:How exactly do you come up with all of that Rr6? :shock: :?
As always I need specific comments your addressing.

Here is link to autos with alerts in mirrors for blind spots.

http://www.autotrader.com/car-news/are- ... ney-225249

When will have alerts for humans when their not aware of their blind spot to truth. Our current president needs one of these badly, tho with narcissist it is waste of money, still, first step towards sanity is 50% acknowledging there exists a problem, tand then 50% doing something about it.

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Buddhism is indeed a religion. Religions have a dogma, and Budha certainly expounded dogma--Buddhists also claim to have the one true religion, all others are hence, false. What's wrong with just thinking for oneself? Why do we need a religion founded by in many cases, groups of elders who think they know better, or who just have the desire the rule over and manipulate others for their profit?
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Rayliikanen wrote:Buddhism is indeed a religion. Religions have a dogma, and Budha certainly expounded dogma--Buddhists also claim to have the one true religion, all others are hence, false. What's wrong with just thinking for oneself? Why do we need a religion founded by in many cases, groups of elders who think they know better, or who just have the desire the rule over and manipulate others for their profit?
Nah, Buddhism proper and genuine Buddhists has never claimed Buddhism to be the one true religion.

The recognition of Buddhism as a religion is merely a side-effect.
The central mission of Buddhism is to highlight each individual [therefrom the collective] has a major existential problem and it proposed an effective problem solving technique to resolve this critical problem [dukkha].
see
Buddha's 4NT-8FP -A Life Problem Solving Technique
http://onlinephilosophyclub.com/forums/ ... f=4&t=7378


Buddhism do not promote dogma.
See Kalama Sutta;
The Kālāma Sutta is a discourse of the Buddha contained in the Aṅguttara Nikaya of the Tipiṭaka.[1] It is often cited by those of the Theravada and Mahayana traditions alike as the Buddha's "charter of free inquiry."

The Kālāma Sutta is also used for advocating prudence by the use of sound logical reasoning arguments for inquiries in the practice that relates to the discipline of seeking truth, wisdom and knowledge whether it is religious or not.
In short, the Kālāma Sutta is opposed to blind faith, dogmatism and belief spawned from specious reasoning.
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Gamnot wrote: In the USA I am able to vote; I can choose between chasing the wind with the conservatives or plowing the sea with the liberals.
Both sound as fun activities, certainly it begs for further explanation for "plowing" technique :)

As for the OP question, it's as if asking which poem or novel is the "true" description of Love. All of them have something interesting to convey but none is the only source of knowledge. Except that perhaps Christianity is the most universal for most people, except for exclusion of some, not by the religion but the practice.
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In short, the Kālāma Sutta is opposed to blind faith, dogmatism and belief spawned from specious reasoning.
I'm not convinced you can have a lack of belief in Karma, Reincarnation and the ultimately nihilist core belief that life is somehow horrible and the goal of life should be to cease to exist. I mean if you can be open minded about that kind of stuff and say you don't agree would you still be welcome as a Buddhist priest? If you pointed to the complete lack of empirical evidence and stated your own belief that life doesn't work like that and they are all misguided, again can you still be a Buddhist priest?
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