Are we all born an Atheist?
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I can personally think of no logical explanation for existence. But belief that I do exist means that I can't rule out some of the explanations which seem illogical.Why does believing that you personally exist constitute empirical evidence that something can come from nothing?
Something coming from nothing seems like a candidate for a mismatching of concepts to me.Yes, I would say that last one is a logical error because it's a mismatching of concepts - an incorrect use of language. Unless it's a poetic metaphor of some kind.
Something from nothing is 'a statement of a general principle that has been derived from our observations of the world'. Is a bit of a mouthful, I'm not sure that's conveying the meaning that I intending?
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As I stated previously earlier, the analogy is weak and not an accurate reflection of reality, the ass can simply walk away, eat some grass and live happily.Dark Matter wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 3:42 amSo, the ass starves. Well, I guess that's a choice, too.Thinking critical wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 1:00 am
In response to the analogy dichotomy the truth is the best response, we simply don't know.
I have restated my opinion in saying that there is no word to define the absence of knowledge that gods exist, thus being the position of a new born.Look, you started this thread by asking whether we're all born atheists. The answer is "no." The fact that you don't like the answer isn't going to change that.
There are many facets to being human, we are all diiifefent, some people just don't give a rats ass about these sort of questions.To be human is to philosophize, to ask questions like 'who or what is the author of all nature?' 'why is there something rather than nothing?' 'who or what is the impetus that makes the universe the way it is?'
First, by we I guess you mean you and your projection of how you believe everyone else thinks. Myself and I'm sure many others are under no impression that any form of reason what so ever is intertwined with nature, there is no logical line of reasoning to even assume let alone conclude that nature is anything but a blind force.We also supposes a morality: that man is a rational being and the order of nature is not an order of blind necessity, but an order infused with reason. By refusing to choose, people lose touch with the basic issues of their very existence.
Secondly, as for your opinion that people will loose touch with the issues of there existence unless they accept and believe one of the many possibilites that attempt to explain the nature of the Universe........ This is obviously a deep issue for you, you seem to be obsessed with the idea that every one must question the reality of nature and commit to an answer or they will have some sort of issue of having a deeper appreciation of what it is to exist.
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No. To be agnostic you have to know about god so that you can say you can't know if god exists. An atheist is a person, who, for whatever reason has no belief in god.Thinking critical wrote: ↑November 9th, 2011, 7:34 pm Are we born an atheist then come to believe in god as we are educated about religion?
Or does a neonate have a cognitive predisposition to believe that a higher power must exist?
Perhaps we are born agnostic, unaware that later on in life we are given a choice?
So yeah all babies are atheists.
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Either way, Sheldon's choice has an enormous impact on his life.Eduk wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 5:51 am I don't get this Buridan's Ass thing. If I was an Ass presented with two identical bales of hay I would meta the problem and decide first and foremost that I would eat one of the bale's first. Deciding that it made no difference which one then I would perform a flip of a coin (mental or physical).
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Correct. And so they live their lives at the level of a cockroach.Thinking critical wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 7:32 am ...some people just don't give a rats ass about these sort of questions.
That's what I said....there is no logical line of reasoning to even assume let alone conclude that nature is anything but a blind force.
It's not "just an opinion." The Cry for Myth was written by a well respected psychoanalyst.Secondly, as for your opinion that people will loose touch with the issues of there existence unless they accept and believe one of the many possibilites that attempt to explain the nature of the Universe.
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But you seem to be saying one bale of hay is enlightenment and the other isn't? This makes no sense to me as in Buridan's example the bales of hay are identical? Or are you saying they are both enlightenment and we must choose one? What is to stop me flipping a coin? Also, as I said previously, Buridan seems to be questioning free will, whereas I am not sure what you are questioning? You seem to be saying we should choose one bale or we will 'starve'. But in that analogy there is no need for two identical bales, you can just have one bale?
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