Are we all born an Atheist?
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No, I do not think it depends at all. We are born in ignorance, QED we are atheist when born.SimpleGuy wrote: ↑June 26th, 2018, 1:56 pm That depends on the interpretation of your god and the inner meaning of the "message". Once there is a could be negative interpretation of the message contained people tend to look at god , once they ever experienced a negative reality for their personality ,more and more negative.
One man's negative is another woman's positive. Using negative in the way you do is just question begging.
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"More a logical assessment" does not exclude value judgment altogether.Dark Matter wrote:It’s more a logical assessment of the situation than a value judgement. A cockroach is always a cockroach 100%; only a human can make a conscious choice to be less than what he/she is.
I don't either. You'll have to ask the PC crowd.And I don't know why any of these thoughts about the relative abilities and choices of humans and cockroaches would be deemed to be political.
What's better for our species: basing decisions on knowing what it is to be human or emoting?Thinking critical wrote: ↑June 26th, 2018, 8:46 am Or perhaps it is simply that some people are more concerned with where humanity is going as opposed to how it all began. Everyday there is an abundance of unnecessary pain and suffering, global food and water shortages, extreme climate changes and acts of terror to a name a few. Many are fortunate in that there are people out their who proactively fight the good fight an put the needs of others before themselves.
Helping others without pondering questions like what it is to be human leads to suffering.It is possible that allot of people find more value and meaning in life in helping others than in investing a great deal of time pondering questions which since the dawn of civilisation have not been answered.
That's the pointIf these people are less than cockroaches I would hate to think of your opinion of the rest of us that sit on technology debating topics in order to inflate ones own ego.
That is to say, humans become more than a clever cockroach the moment he devises things not useful for his existence under the exclusive action of the"will-to-live."From the moment that man is no longer content to devise things useful for his existence under the exclusive action of the"will-to-live," the principle of Evolution has been violated. -- Edouard Récéjac
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Emoting? Your words, not mine. Humans are emotional beings, emotion preceeds reason....this is being Human.Dark Matter wrote: ↑June 26th, 2018, 5:22 pm
What's better for our species: basing decisions on knowing what it is to be human or emoting?
As for what's better for our species, you would need to be more specific and reframe from offering a dichotomy.
The desire to help others is being human, to ask "what is to be human" infers humans have an innate quality which defines us as humans....so what in your opinion would that be?Helping others without pondering questions like what it is to be human leads to suffering.
If that's what you believe the good for you.That is to say, humans become more than a clever cockroach the moment he devises things not useful for his existence under the exclusive action of the"will-to-live."
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I strongly recommend that you read Paul Tillich's The Courage to Be.Thinking critical wrote: ↑June 27th, 2018, 8:03 amEmoting? Your words, not mine. Humans are emotional beings, emotion preceeds reason....this is being Human.Dark Matter wrote: ↑June 26th, 2018, 5:22 pm
What's better for our species: basing decisions on knowing what it is to be human or emoting?
As for what's better for our species, you would need to be more specific and reframe from offering a dichotomy.
The desire to help others is being human, to ask "what is to be human" infers humans have an innate quality which defines us as humans....so what in your opinion would that be?Helping others without pondering questions like what it is to be human leads to suffering.
If that's what you believe the good for you.That is to say, humans become more than a clever cockroach the moment he devises things not useful for his existence under the exclusive action of the"will-to-live."
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No. I don't think it was an accident.Ya'll think it was an accident to use that particular word?
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Steve, according to the Bible, "dyslexic atheist" is redundant. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God" ... but atheists, being metaphysically dyslexic, cannot understand the Word.Steve3007: To dyslexic militant atheists "god" is a four letter word.
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Reminds me of the dyslexic, agnostic with ansomnia.Felix wrote: ↑June 29th, 2018, 5:12 amSteve, according to the Bible, "dyslexic atheist" is redundant. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God" ... but atheists, being metaphysically dyslexic, cannot understand the Word.Steve3007: To dyslexic militant atheists "god" is a four letter word.
He would lay awake all night wandering if there really was a dog.
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Yes, to a baby, their parents are gods.
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Perhaps this is the only possible definition in terms of psychology(for god) to define it as a psychological dependency to another person with is not in discussion officially.
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