A few quotes from the philosophy of J. Krishnamurti

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A few quotes from the philosophy of J. Krishnamurti

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Hi,
a few quotes for reflection.
Enjoy.
jb.


J. KRISHNAMURTI:

'WHEN you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind.'

'Every thought and feeling must flower for them to live and die. Flowering of everything in you, the ambition, the greed, the hate, the joy, the passion - there is their death and freedom. It is only in freedom that anything can flourish, not in suppression, in control and discipline, these only pervert, corrupt. Flowering and freedom is goodness and all virtue'.



'Truth is a pathless land'.



'We have invented GOD. The thinking created god for itself. That means due to unhappiness, fear and depression we created something called god. God did not create us after his imagination, I wish He had'.



'When you get rid of attachment, there will be LOVE.'



'THE world is you and you are the world.'



'ALL existence is choice. Only in aloneness there is no choice. Choice in every form is conflict. Contradiction is inevitable in choice; this contradiction, inner and outer breeds confusion and misery.'



'THE speaker is only a mirror. Where you can see yourself. when you recognize yourself clearly , you can put aside the mirror.'



'WHEN I do not stop war today, I will go on to war tomorrow. express simple: The future is now.'



'PSYCHOANALYSIS is concerned with the past; while one is analysing the past one is missing the challenges of the present.'



'LOVE can not exist where there is attachment. If you are attached to your Guru, there is no love in your heart.'



'WHEN there is love in your heart, in your eyes, in your blood, in your face, you are a different human being.'



'IF you suffer pain, anxiety, ambition, and soon, you don't know what love is. You want to have power, position, better house, better cars. Have you ever understood that a man who is ambitious has no love in his heart.'



'THERE is no path to truth, it must come to you. Truth can come to you only when your mind and heart are simple, clear and there is love in your heart, not if your heart is filled with the things of the mind.'



'OUT of confusion, you invent something permanent - the Absolute, the Brahman or God.'



'I wonder how many of you realize that we are put together by thought. Your gods are put together by thought.'



' GOD is invented by man. I am sure that you won't like this. But you are attached to that concept: God exists.'



' WE have now got tribal gods at every corner because the world has become uncertain, dangerous, and we want to belong to some group, some sect, some local god.'



'IT is not the silence cultivated by thought. It is the silence of intelligence, silence of supreme intelligence. In that silence comes that which are not touched by thought, by endeavor, by effort. It is the way of intelligence which is the way of compassion. Then that which is sacred is everlasting. That is meditation. Such a life is religious life. In that there is great beauty.'



'DO you know what practicing every day does to your brain? Your brain becomes dull, mechanical, it is tortured, making effort to achieve some silence some state of experience. That is not meditation. That is just another form of achievement like a politician becoming a minister.'



'NOW to live without measurement, to be totally, completely, free of all measurement, is part of meditation. Not that ' I am practicing this, I will achieve something in a years time. That is measurement which is the very nature of one's egotistic activity. Meditation is the ending of measurement, ending of comparison completely..'



'THERE is nothing sacred in the temple, in the mosque, in the churches. They are all the inventions of thought.'



'YOU can sit on the banks of river Ganga or some place and do all kinds of tricks with yourself. That is not meditation. Meditation is some thing that is of daily life. It is your movement of life, and than there is in that movement freedom, order, and out of that flowers great silence. Only when you have come to that point, one finds there is absolutely sacred.'



'WE never give up all our BELIEFS; we never give up all the formulas, and the things that we have learnt from books, and from teachers. We are never, inwardly, at any moment simple. We are never, at any moment, not asking or not seeking.....Only when there is no Hinduism, no Islam, no Buddhism, no Christianity, can there be peace....'



'WE must find out what is a RELIGIOUS mind, because a religious mind brings about a new world a new civilization, a new culture, a new outburst of energy. One must find out for oneself what is a religious mind, not be told, not be directed , not explained to.'



' YOU can only find out if you deny totally all the present religious BELIEFS and ideas, because it is only a free mind that can find out what is the quality of the religious mind.'



'A prisoner wants freedom, which means first he is caught in a prison, then he wants freedom to leave that prison. That is only reaction. That reaction is not freedom. Freedom implies the total ending of all illusions, of all BELIEFS, of all your accumulated wants, desires. A religious mind is sane, healthy.'
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Post by df544 »

All said and done,

Krishnamurti could not accept the world for what it is.

You could say that he was the pinnacle of humanity but

he stood alone. except for some very smart people like David Bohm.


I say the world is perfect.

But I'm gonna use my power if you try to stop me from doing what I want to do.
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