Why God is a Son of a Bitch

Discuss philosophical questions regarding theism (and atheism), and discuss religion as it relates to philosophy. This includes any philosophical discussions that happen to be about god, gods, or a 'higher power' or the belief of them. This also generally includes philosophical topics about organized or ritualistic mysticism or about organized, common or ritualistic beliefs in the existence of supernatural phenomenon.
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MidiChlorian
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Re: Why God is a Son of a Bitch

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Fanman wrote:MidiChlorian, wrote: (Nested quote removed.)

I didn't say 'final' truth, I was talking in relation to an ultimate truth, like the effect of gravity holding everything down on earth, or the fact that the moon reflects the sun's light. These are ultimate / unchangeable truths, as opposed to truths that can be changed, such as the smoking illustration I provided in my previous post.
Sorry Fanman, for not responding sooner, however, your response to my query, above cannot really be defined as truths, they are more so categorized as facts or factoids. Your reference to "that the moon reflects the sun's light", would not be a truth to a blind person, because they cannot experience it as truth, yet they can believe it as a known fact, based on reference only. Your reference to "the effects of gravity holding everything down" is actually a factoid rather than a fact, but I will digress that it is a fact, however, gravity and its computations is based on the mass of the earth and that is assumed based on the assumption that the earth is solid and has an iron core. But, there have been suggestions that this may not actually be the case and at this time has not been proved. Then there is the "Shell Theorem" -- which would suggest that (1) A spherically symmetric body affects external objects gravitationally as though all of its mass were concentrated at a point at its centre, and (2) If the body is a spherically symmetric shell (i.e., a hollow ball), no net gravitational force is exerted by the shell on any object inside, regardless of the object's location within the shell.Nevertheless, there is Centrifugal force which "is the apparent force that draws a rotating body away from the center of rotation. It is caused by the inertia of the body as the body's path is continually redirected." Not to mention that, if you would take the diameter of the moon and assume that it is solid, based on the same analogy as the earth, the mass of a moon that size would be pulled into the earth, mainly because it has no rotation and based on its axis and orbit around the earth, would suggest that the gravity on the moon is not the same as based on the gravity computations as assumed of the earth. Plus, this theory actualized with the first Apollo Moon Mission. I can elaborate but it would take more time and space than I wish to post at this time. Therefore, your examples of truth, or ultimate truth, might not hold water in my cup, regardless of whether your cup is full.
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Re: Why God is a Son of a Bitch

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Belinda wrote:I don't believe that any so-called 'Free Will' can change the future.
It may be that ignorance is the single thing that creates the illusion of "free-will" in an absolutely deterministic universe.

Imagine the humility that view would engender in anyone who thinks themselves greater than others because of their station in life. I like to think that Einstein's humility stems from this perspective.

-- Updated September 9th, 2013, 1:33 pm to add the following --

Why did a being who can not be tortured create a being who can be tortured, and, in fact, is tortured by that very same exempt being (God)?

Only a sadistic son-of-a-bitch would invent pain to inflict on others.
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If there really was a "god" like they say in the bible he is great and forgiving. If he was so great world hunger wouldn't be a problem neither would war or anything other problems. This free will thing may have just been made up by someone who wanted some extra cash so started a "church" and said "offer" your money to "God"
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