How long before WWIII starts? And will we know it is happening?

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How long before WWIII starts? And will we know it is happening?

Post by -1- » June 3rd, 2018, 7:08 pm

Some say in modern times there is a war every 50 years. Napoleonic in first decade of the 1800s; Europe-wide rebelliions and blood clashes between the ruling classes and the oppressors in 1848; The Great War in 1914; the even greater war, 1939.

We are a few years overdue. But the political arena is ripening. Resources are becoming scarcer. Weapons, more and more dangerous. The world has two weeks worth of food supplies stored, according to Andy Turnbull. This has bee the case for a decade now.

What if there is a large quasi-worldwide crop failure? War.

What if the American dollar collapses? Because of large amounts of it being in China, and it is potentially worthless, as there is nothing to buy from America but cars and real estate, and weapons. But china makes its own weapons and cars, and it buys real estate in Africa, where it's much cheaper.

What if there is a nutty dictator that gets hold of the atom secret? Like Orban Victor or Ngaba Sulimbe.
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Re: How long before WWIII starts? And will we know it is happening?

Post by LuckyR » June 5th, 2018, 2:19 am

Huh? Of the past 3,400 years, humans have been entirely at peace for 268 of them, or just 8 percent of recorded history.
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Re: How long before WWIII starts? And will we know it is happening?

Post by -1- » June 5th, 2018, 4:30 pm

LuckyR wrote:
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Huh? Of the past 3,400 years, humans have been entirely at peace for 268 of them, or just 8 percent of recorded history.
You are absolutely right. But I am not talking 'bout wars. I am talking about world wars. Wars that involve multiple warring parties, allied or not, in a defined region which involves at least 50% or so of a continent.
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Re: How long before WWIII starts? And will we know it is happening?

Post by LuckyR » June 6th, 2018, 3:08 am

The source of the next world war will be middle eastern and North African heat (secondary to global warming) leading to severe drought
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Re: How long before WWIII starts? And will we know it is happening?

Post by Steve3007 » June 18th, 2018, 6:36 am

LuckyR wrote:Huh? Of the past 3,400 years, humans have been entirely at peace for 268 of them, or just 8 percent of recorded history.
I find it very difficult to believe that there have been as many as 268 years in which nobody spilled somebody else's pint. What's your source on this?

Anyway, I find it hard to believe that there will be a world war, in the same sense that they have happened in the past, again.

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Post by -1- » June 19th, 2018, 2:57 am

Steve3007 wrote:
June 18th, 2018, 6:36 am
Anyway, I find it hard to believe that there will be a world war, in the same sense that they have happened in the past, again.
Next question: are world wars a function of historical forces, or are they, instead, a function of what people find believable to happen?
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Re: How long before WWIII starts? And will we know it is happening?

Post by -1- » June 19th, 2018, 3:03 am

Next question: does thinking of two disparate yet similar events as "happening in the same sense" necessarily mean they have to be identical all aspects and respects? If not identical, then up to what point of differentness are they in the "same" sense similar, and beyond that point they are not similar in the "same" sense?

I mean, if you don't speak in tautologies, you can still obliterate opposition arguments by being so vague that it makes it impossible to grab the argument by the horn and wrestle it to the ground. In some sense of this simile.
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Re: How long before WWIII starts? And will we know it is happening?

Post by Steve3007 » June 21st, 2018, 7:29 am

-1- wrote:Next question: are world wars a function of historical forces, or are they, instead, a function of what people find believable to happen?
Both, and more, I guess.
Next question: does thinking of two disparate yet similar events as "happening in the same sense" necessarily mean they have to be identical all aspects and respects? If not identical, then up to what point of differentness are they in the "same" sense similar, and beyond that point they are not similar in the "same" sense?
No two events are identical so I suppose the way in which we choose to collect them into a set of labelled boxes depends on our purposes.

The reason for my earlier post was that I just can't imagine the world wars of the 20th Century happening again. It seems that war is destined to be more fractured. I can't imagine entire nation states declaring war on other entire nation states any more.

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