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Revolutionary Nihilism

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Carl Schmitt explained, that every association of men(state), is an association against - against other men. Thus, the purpose of the state is the annihilation of the other - other states.

When a state succumbs to an internal revolution, the revolutionaries must then assume control of the state apparatus and use it to direct the revolution outward - against other states. This is what the Jacobins did in the French Revolution and as the Italians, Nazis and Communists have done.

The nature of revolution is insanity and aggression. This is the essence of nihilism. The revolution is not the means - it's the end, in and of itself. The revolutionary nihilist must only create order in the furtherance of chaos. Thus, the military industrial complex only has legitimacy in so far as it is being used to wage war. All learning and high culture must be annihilated.

Revolutionary nihilism is globalist in nature. The association of men(state), cannot maintain internal cohesion and prevent infighting and factionalism without both a perceived enemy and a perceived threat. If no such threat exists, then one must be invented.

Revolutionary nihilists must exploit crowd psychology, propaganda, cultural terrorism, violence and intimidation etc. - create the conditions under which the revolution can grow.

Revolutionary nihilism must pose a credible and existential threat to all people on earth.

What do you guys think about revolutionary nihilism?
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Re: Revolutionary Nihilism

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you are right to point out that the nature of revolution is insanity and aggression. it is the means by which the people can overthrow the former established order. However, a true revolutionary nihilism is one that is not directed by a governed body. an example I can give would the 1997 uprising in Albania due to the pyramid banking scheme. Although much of the uprising was a result of the of banking scheme, it was never an uprising that had one, direct goal. many fought against the government to get their money back, however others fought for territory and money, others just for the fun of it. although individually organized, collectively it was fragmented. In this case I would call it revolutionary nihilism, but not the French or Russian revolutions, nor the rise of Nazism and Fascism in Germany and Italy. These two political events were directed by the governed body, the Jacobins, the Communists, the Nazi and Fascist parties.

and revolutions must indeed crowd psychology, propaganda, cultural terrorism, violence and intimidation - in other words: ideology. the old ideology that was associated with the Old Order that allowed it to govern the people was replaced by a new ideology. Ideology is subjectively reality for us and we cannot discard, lest we simultaneously discard reality itself.

with Revolutionary nihilism, it can come about as you put it, but the new state needing an antagonistic Other in order to exist is not exclusively within revolutions. It is with all states, including democratic states. All states in the end need a legitimacy in order to exist and function. it does not have to come externally. it can also come internally.
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On the 412th anniversary of the plot to blow up the British House of Lords, a failed mass assassination attempt against King James I of England and VI of Scotland, should talk of revolution once more be in the air?
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If you dump a bunch of people on an uninhabited island, they will probably perish unless they come together and work together. This is separate from any requirement or inclination to oppose some other group.
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every association of men(state), is an association against - against other men. Thus, the purpose of the state is the annihilation of the other - other states.
What an absurd claim... even if we accept your premise that states exist only to facilitate competition between people, the medium for competition is not necessarily war and the goal of competition is not necessarily the destruction of other states. In today's environment, this is very evident as few countries really care about expanding their borders or destroying other states, they are interested in economic, political and influence objectives.
States exist and rather than requiring a purpose for existing they would need a purpose for being dismantled, who has the power to dismantle the state but the state in today's environment?
The nature of revolution is insanity and aggression
Revolution occurs for all kinds of reasons, by all kinds of instigators and utilising different means than just violence, hence the incorrectness of your statement.
This is the essence of nihilism
The essence of nihilism is that the nature of revolution is insanity and aggression... Really? Also Nazism and Communism are nihilistic movements? Are you kidding me?

I was interested since it had nihilism in the title but it seems like you wish for a grand enemy without concern for accuracy or validity.
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Revolutionary nihilism is a rejection of a current order and reversion to chaos. The concept calls to mind the Hundu deity, Shiva the destroyer, or - as it is also called - Shiva the renewer. Renewal and destruction go hand in hand, without which is stagnation, which is basically just slow destruction.

All are needed for functioning ecosystem or societal system - growth-promoting elements, destructive elements and relatively stable elements.
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A functioning ecosystem is in the age of santa monica beach piling , quite a harassment of mind. The simple thought that any value for those people ever existed is hoax and an insult so strong that we should think about at least not so theistic ways to understand a human made inhuman society.
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And if you think that does not exist in europe , the film : "Les amant du pont neuf" and the clearing of the homelesscamp of 3000 people in berlin should have opened up your eyes.
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In fact, the film blade runner treated not primarily skin jobs (in the german edition Haut Jobs) but this was in reality stack jobs. That means the corresponding people were simple homeless, condemmed to get killed by the police and to be piled (respectively stacked) on a heap as dead people over each other. You simply don't have a glimpse of modern Sci-Fi literature.
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