Eduk wrote: ↑
September 6th, 2018, 6:07 am
You are going to have to do better than for 'reasons'. How do you know this? What are your sources? Are there no other factors? Do all Syrians agree with you? It's just horribly complex, there are too many moving parts, I can't see how this war can be boiled down so simply, how come you think it can?
Do all Syrians agree with the image painted in mainstream media? Is all Syrians agreeing the best criterion for validity?
Further I mentioned things not present in most presentations of how the war got going. This adds complexity. Of course there were people against Assad, many with just causes. But they would not have been able to get a serious civil war going without outside intervention. It is not clear to me they are better and ISIS is pretty clearly worse.
Did you go at mainstream versions of what is happening with as much interest in sources? Do you know how much corporations and for example the US government create news?
Much too vague. The real world doesn't work this. In the real world no one has complete magical control over a situation and they are just working as best they can for their interests (good or bad or almost certainly in between).
God, so many possible responses 1) obviously no one has complete control. 2) The Bush administration managed to get Gulf WAR two going very effectively on false evidence, false testimony and propaganda. And they managed to shift large amounts of tax money to corporations when they privitized the military and the rebuilding, corporations they had ties too. In fact I think it was Cheney who simply refused the Congressional due diligence that was mandatory regarding his connections to these companies. And some of that administration was working back under Reagan Bush DEFENDING Hussein after he gassed the Kurds. All of this can be found, but was never emphasized in the mainstream press until it was too late and no one served any time for creating that refugee crisis, war, casualities, etc. 3) What's magical about this? Extremely powerful people and groups cannot control everything, but they can do a lot.
Whether they are you, me or the PM. I don't for one second believe the likes of Blair to be evil geniuses, though I have little respect for your average politician.
Blair? Blair is not the kind of person who works out the details or strategies involved in such enterprises, he's a salesman. I am certainly not saying Bush 2 came up with anything himself either. Cheney might have come up with some stuff, but then, excuse me, powerful people have access to incredible experts. And I never mentioned Blair who is technically not a neocon though certainly went along with their plans in the Mideast and likely elsewhere, whether manipulated or conscious I have no idea nor do I care. Politicians are subject of propaganda and pressure like everyone else.
Notice how you jumped to an assumption that for this to be true Blair would have to be an evil genius.
That is a weird assumption, but it likely was part of your incredulity.
It is hard to notice what is easy to notice.