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What is white priviledge if what is white can't be defined?

Post Number:#1  Postby Roel » April 14th, 2017, 9:42 pm

It is very confusing to me how, at one hand people on this forum can't define what a white person is, but can speak about white priviledge. I just have a simple question, which is how white priviledge can be defined. If someone is, say, 25% Afro-American, and 75% white/Indo-European or however you want to call it, but this person has blonde hair, non-brown eyes and doesn't look Afro-American at all, could you say that this person has white priviledge, because he or she looks white and because of this is more accepted in mostly white communities?

If a woman has a jewish father, and an Irish mother and looks completely white, although she is partly jewish and not fully white, is it still white priviledge?

And if what a white person is can't be defined, how can white priviledge be defined? What is it, if we don't know what a white person is?
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Re: What is white priviledge if what is white can't be defin

Post Number:#2  Postby Fooloso4 » April 16th, 2017, 12:38 pm

Roel:

It is very confusing to me how, at one hand people on this forum can't define what a white person is, but can speak about white priviledge.


It is about perception not definition. It is about treating people differently because of perceived differences associated with being white. A person who is perceived as being white may enjoy white privilege, while a person who is not perceived as being white may suffer because of prejudices associated with those who are not white.
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Re: What is white priviledge if what is white can't be defin

Post Number:#3  Postby LuckyR » April 20th, 2017, 11:35 am

Roel wrote:It is very confusing to me how, at one hand people on this forum can't define what a white person is, but can speak about white priviledge. I just have a simple question, which is how white priviledge can be defined. If someone is, say, 25% Afro-American, and 75% white/Indo-European or however you want to call it, but this person has blonde hair, non-brown eyes and doesn't look Afro-American at all, could you say that this person has white priviledge, because he or she looks white and because of this is more accepted in mostly white communities?

If a woman has a jewish father, and an Irish mother and looks completely white, although she is partly jewish and not fully white, is it still white priviledge?

And if what a white person is can't be defined, how can white priviledge be defined? What is it, if we don't know what a white person is?


As has been already described, White Privilege is an excellent descriptor for this very real issue, since it ISN'T a genetic marker (in which case it would be called something else), rather a social descriptor. Thus the "White" part of White Privilege is wholly in the mind of the perpetrator of the Privilege. Thus it has a nonreproducable exact definition. An example is in South Africa, back in apartheid times, a white South African woman developed a skin pigment disorder that darkened her skin and she legally lost her White status and was reclassified by the government as Colored (like imported Asian workers).
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