Capitalism is not failing. The strongest economies are all capitalistic. The reason China is prospering is that they've gone capitalist in great degree. Capitalistic countries are afflicted with horrible inequalities of wealth, but that has to do with the specifics of how the system is set up, and could be corrected with the right politicians (although I'm not holding my breath). Even at present the poor in the US are better off the poor in Russia, say. As Eduk implied, capitalism is a flawed system but the others are much worse.Burning ghost wrote:The sad truth is Capitalism is failing and I doubt very much the US can pull itself out of the stupor its put itself in. The US has structured its whole government and economy in such a way that it cannot stop its own demise, and sadly it will pull the rest of the world down with it rather than admit that things ain't going how they expected and that their system may actually not be the best option.
Why Donald Trump disappointed me
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I have read a lot [books and reports] about Trump and have an idea of his character. Like every human, he has his pros and cons. One of my forte is Strategic Management and Planning (MBA).And how do you arrive at the conclusion that Trump would tackle the issues better than Clinton?
Trump's egoism and narcissism [ugly socially] fortunately for him generate a very high internal drive for being result oriented based on high quality and efficiency. The results of these drives are proven by actual performances in terms of his products and financial success.
What is critical in all human endeavors is that internal drive for success plus the necessary competences to produce results.
What has Hilary Clinton produced to prove she is a potential for success in any mission she will be assigned as President.
Nobody can be an instant perfect president. Trump [especially with no political experience] will fumble initially [learning curve] in many cases, but with that very determined internal drive for success he will learn from inevitable mistakes and make fast improvements.
There are many variables I have not discussed here. One very obvious point is Trump's very negative views of radical Islam and his various statements on Islam.Eduk wrote:How do you arrive at the conclusion of the weighting of terrorism.
Hilary and Obama dare not even mention 'Radical Islam' or any linkage of the terrorism committed by SOME Muslims to Islam. How can there be results if one is not willing to identify the root causes. Worst is, Hilary is diverting off tangent from the ultimate root cause, i.e. Islam.
As such I am giving Trump a high score over Hilary's low score.
-- Updated Sun May 21, 2017 8:25 pm to add the following --
Note my post above where I have learned of Trump's capabilities and his actual performances.Felix wrote:So you vote for candidates based solely on their promises? Boy, you are a politician's dream voter!Spectrum: The effective method to arrive at a decision in the case of selecting a President is to list the relevant criteria as declared in his/her proposed policies.
Trump never defined what his policies would be, I don't think he himself knew. His modus operandi was to tell narrow-minded and bigoted people whatever they longed to hear, or as they say in marketing, to sell the sizzle and not the steak, which is exactly what the people who voted for him got: lots of sizzle and no steak (he's eating their steak).
Besides the above we have to take into account the candidate's proposed Political Agenda [manifesto].
For me, he did state his intention regarding what to do with Islamic terrorism. Clinton's set-up was already infested and infected with radical Islam. Clinton's personal advisor, Huma Abedin has ties with the Muslim Brotherhood.
It is not easy for leopards to change their spots.Hillary Clinton’s top campaign aide, and the woman who might be the future White House chief of staff to the first female US president, for a decade edited a radical Muslim publication that opposed women’s rights and blamed the US for 9/11.
http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/huma-abedi ... -10-years/
Trump's business acumen and economic competence is definitely way off better than Clinton's.
I have taken into account Trump's lack of political savvy but with his inherent management and planning intelligence, he is a more likely success than Clinton albeit initial fumbles which is inevitable on the steep slope of any learning curve.
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Now with Trump, his points for Islamic terrorism I would've given him 90 points out of 100.
A appx computation of his points would be
- economics-US = 90/100 x 25% = 22.5
Islamic terrorism = 90/100 x 30% = 27.0
Note this is not based on current knowledge but based on then during the election campaign.
As for Clinton I would have given her;
1. economics -US = 30/100 x 25% = 7.5
2. Islamic terrorism = 5/100 x 30% =1.5
We can do the exercise for the other criteria but whatever the score of these other criteria, the maximum score is only 5 thus there is not likely to be of great impact.
I am well aware, Trump is an ego maniac and psychopath [to some degree] but
on the above basis, the obvious choice [semi-objectively] for me would be Trump over Clinton.
The above is rough exercise to give consideration to weightings and we can do better with more criteria and factor in other weightings like probability of success, etc.[/quote]
A rough exercise is about the most kind way I can describe what you posted. I am not even going to be bothered elaborating on how what you have constructed is a mockery of the complexity of politics and instead simply ask what the basis for your numbers is.
90 out of 100 on terrorism and 5 out of 100 for Hillary. Explain to me how someone who has literally no experience with military agencies, law enforcement agencies, and is unaware of Middle Eastern issues at all (doesn’t know that the two state solution is etc.) scores 90%. Meanwhile the lady who spent years working as secretary of state (the position which deals specifically with agents outside the U.S.) has dozens of years of political work under her belt and has literally been involved in combating or containing terrorism gets a score 18 times lower than the Donald.
Donald keeps proclaiming “who knew it was so complicated”. Everyone except Donald knew. And you know who was acutely aware of how complicated these things are; Hillary knew because she has been doing it for a long time. And she bothers to know what is actually going on, pays attention to briefings more than one page long, and realizes she will not be more competent at it than our own Generals who have devoted over 20+ years of their life rising above their peers to become a General in that silly little agency which fights Terrorism. But yes the businessman who goes bankrupt routinely he’s got this.
Then there is Economy. I really wish I hadn’t plaid the bankruptcy card already making this a re run. But did you know most rich people managed to become rich without abusing the bankruptcy system. Second fun fact there is no international bankruptcy system to cut your losses when you tank a nation (just ask Greece). Trump is just about the only person who could manage to bankrupt ocean front casinos. I mean you have to work hard to mess something that good up. But that’s our economy 90 out of 100 guy.
The world isn’t going to just let go of our debts when we gamble wildly and loose like Trump did with his personal businesses. The Banks had a fallback when they failed from that sort of behavior, Trump had a fallback when he wrecked some of his businesses. That fallback is the U.S. Government. When you are talking about the U.S. Economy there is no fallback. No security net to mitigate massive failure. You mentioned before you’re not a U.S. citizen so you’re not invested. Well you should be because my last fun fact is the world economy is deeply tied to Americas. America going bankrupt building 1400 mile long walls, growing its already largest in the world by far military, and bombing the wrong places could end up costing people you know their jobs or livelihood in a global depression.
Now I have no love for Hillary, I would have voted for half of the republicans who ran against Trump before I would have voted for her. However it is one thing to think your surgeon is a bad one. It is quite another to decide I am going to hire that carpenter over there to do my heart surgery instead. Most rational people would take a bad surgeon over someone without a medical degree. But for some reason people think politics are so simple reality T.V. stars are fully capable.
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Note at least I have something objective [not subjective feelings, hunches and intuitions] we can discuss analytically.Grotto19 wrote:A rough exercise is about the most kind way I can describe what you posted. I am not even going to be bothered elaborating on how what you have constructed is a mockery of the complexity of politics and instead simply ask what the basis for your numbers is.
90 out of 100 on terrorism and 5 out of 100 for Hillary. Explain to me how someone who has literally no experience with military agencies, law enforcement agencies, and is unaware of Middle Eastern issues at all (doesn’t know that the two state solution is etc.) scores 90%. Meanwhile the lady who spent years working as secretary of state (the position which deals specifically with agents outside the U.S.) has dozens of years of political work under her belt and has literally been involved in combating or containing terrorism gets a score 18 times lower than the Donald.
Donald keeps proclaiming “who knew it was so complicated”. Everyone except Donald knew. And you know who was acutely aware of how complicated these things are; Hillary knew because she has been doing it for a long time. And she bothers to know what is actually going on, pays attention to briefings more than one page long, and realizes she will not be more competent at it than our own Generals who have devoted over 20+ years of their life rising above their peers to become a General in that silly little agency which fights Terrorism. But yes the businessman who goes bankrupt routinely he’s got this.
Then there is Economy. I really wish I hadn’t plaid the bankruptcy card already making this a re run. But did you know most rich people managed to become rich without abusing the bankruptcy system. Second fun fact there is no international bankruptcy system to cut your losses when you tank a nation (just ask Greece). Trump is just about the only person who could manage to bankrupt ocean front casinos. I mean you have to work hard to mess something that good up. But that’s our economy 90 out of 100 guy.
The world isn’t going to just let go of our debts when we gamble wildly and loose like Trump did with his personal businesses. The Banks had a fallback when they failed from that sort of behavior, Trump had a fallback when he wrecked some of his businesses. That fallback is the U.S. Government. When you are talking about the U.S. Economy there is no fallback. No security net to mitigate massive failure. You mentioned before you’re not a U.S. citizen so you’re not invested. Well you should be because my last fun fact is the world economy is deeply tied to Americas. America going bankrupt building 1400 mile long walls, growing its already largest in the world by far military, and bombing the wrong places could end up costing people you know their jobs or livelihood in a global depression.
Now I have no love for Hillary, I would have voted for half of the republicans who ran against Trump before I would have voted for her. However it is one thing to think your surgeon is a bad one. It is quite another to decide I am going to hire that carpenter over there to do my heart surgery instead. Most rational people would take a bad surgeon over someone without a medical degree. But for some reason people think politics are so simple reality T.V. stars are fully capable.
What I have presented is a rough model but in reality we must consider more variables.
One of the most important criteria I weighed Trump over Hilary is the Strategic Management and Planning intelligence.
Note Sun Tzu's Art of War which is applicable to War and all human endeavors in achieving results against odds.
Trump has a high Strategic Management and Planning intelligence [SMP-Q] [inborn and learned] and this is proven with his results in the efficiency of his productions of things. As I stated Trump do not has the political savvy but this can be learned quickly on the job.
Hilary's exposure to Politics was purely due to being a husband who was a President. She do not have that inborn traits of SMP-Q, the higher energy, the oomph, the strong drive and determination to succeed.
One of my forte is Strategic Management and Planning. Another point is the optimal management is the right type of management style [ranging from 'slave' to 'autocratic'] to fit the existing conditions.
https://en.wik:pedia.org/wik:/Management_style
Hilary may have some advantage over Trump in certain criteria but her management capability [overall] is not suited for the current existing conditions.
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The rest like knowing one’s own capabilities and knowing even more so ones opponents he is utterly lacking in. He doesn’t know what he can do (he gets schooled on this every week), he doesn’t know what we can do (make Mexico pay for the wall, make Israel and Palestine simply get along because reasons, he is going to make our businesses boom because he????). And worse according to Tzu he knows nothing of our adversaries. Didn’t know anything about China and Taiwan, likely has no clue Tibet is held captive against their will, doesn’t know where terrorists are actually coming from, and thinks he can cure terrorism with his magic Trump powers better than all the generals who devote their life to basically just that. And he will fix that so quickly by doing ?????. If it is not apparent yet the ? marks represent the fact that he has no plan at all for these things but simply assures us he will do them somehow.
Do not disgrace Sun Tzu by even implying he would call Trump a strategic master. Trump is a huckster and Tzu would have identified that before his campaign got beyond day 3. The master tactician that can’t even shut his mouth on twitter for a day. Oh and I forgot about Russia. There are only 2 possibilities there. The kinder one is Trump was just a buffoon who didn’t realize all the people he was hiring were Russian agents. Not to flattering for our master tactician. The other option is he did know and is himself also a Russian agent. This option would allow for him to be a “master tactician” if not for the fact he blundered it so badly everyone knows about it. In either case he is a baboon. Sun Tzu would likely only appoint him to the position of broom closet manager.
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I have lots of criticism of Trump's current performance after being elected.Grotto19 wrote:"One of my forte is Strategic Management and Planning. " It does not seem so to me. You see the title I bestow on a manager who fails at 40% of his endeavors I award the title of fired. Not promoted to a higher department. Particularly when his successes are dependent on a support system which will no longer be available on the higher level. It is inconceivable to me that you would conflate being a huckster with the tactics of Sun Tzu. I will agree that Tzu forwarded the value of deceiving ones foe with impressions of strength which one does not actually have. But that’s the only part Trump has.
The rest like knowing one’s own capabilities and knowing even more so ones opponents he is utterly lacking in. He doesn’t know what he can do (he gets schooled on this every week), he doesn’t know what we can do (make Mexico pay for the wall, make Israel and Palestine simply get along because reasons, he is going to make our businesses boom because he????). And worse according to Tzu he knows nothing of our adversaries. Didn’t know anything about China and Taiwan, likely has no clue Tibet is held captive against their will, doesn’t know where terrorists are actually coming from, and thinks he can cure terrorism with his magic Trump powers better than all the generals who devote their life to basically just that. And he will fix that so quickly by doing ?????. If it is not apparent yet the ? marks represent the fact that he has no plan at all for these things but simply assures us he will do them somehow.
Do not disgrace Sun Tzu by even implying he would call Trump a strategic master. Trump is a huckster and Tzu would have identified that before his campaign got beyond day 3. The master tactician that can’t even shut his mouth on twitter for a day. Oh and I forgot about Russia. There are only 2 possibilities there. The kinder one is Trump was just a buffoon who didn’t realize all the people he was hiring were Russian agents. Not to flattering for our master tactician. The other option is he did know and is himself also a Russian agent. This option would allow for him to be a “master tactician” if not for the fact he blundered it so badly everyone knows about it. In either case he is a baboon. Sun Tzu would likely only appoint him to the position of broom closet manager.
Note the point here is why I preferred Trump over Hilary on election day.
I did not assert Trump is a "master tactician" but he definitely has a higher management skill set than Hilary and the various reasons I have given.
I still believe Trump is on a learning curve.
I am not expecting Trump to be a superman and that he could perform perfection from day one.
You may critique Trump based on his current performance but you cannot conclude he is a failure until the completion of his term.
Point is if Hilary has been elected President, her performance could have been worse by now or at the end of the term.
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“Expecting Trump to be superman on day one…” Give me a break are you serious. I would be thrilled if we could get through a week without him humiliating my nation. My highest aspirations for this clown is we don’t start a nuclear war. This is what you get when you put your crazy drunk uncle in charge of everything because he thinks he knows how to run a country. Spooler alert it is a really bad idea and lots of people will get hurt.
“You may critique Trump based on his current performance but you cannot conclude he is a failure until the completion of his term.” This is true. And as I am a theist I pray regularly that he is not as bad a nightmare as I think. I don’t believe prayers work btw but hell its only billions of lives on the line.
But I will ask. If my predictions of him being an asshat turn out to be true, will you then admit holy crap I really don’t know anything about politics? Because I can honestly say if he turns out to be great I will not only admit that I will suspend my right to vote. If I can be that wrong I shouldn’t vote. What I wish is that when he does fail gloriously that Trump voters will stop voting for the same reason. Stop voting and also stop talking about politics. Because if he is what I think and claim they only injure us all with their vote. If it turns out I am the one so misguided then I will willing surrender my vote for life. In short the misinformed would do us the highest service by not voting, if it’s me fine I won’t vote, but if it is them then they should not vote.
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By the way how would you judge (after his full term/s) if he had been successful or not? It is that exact judgement which is so very hard to ascertain. For example some people believe he is a good business man and assume he has skills of management, efficiency, planning, drive, vision etc. Other people believe he is a terrible business man and assume he has skills of exploitation, narcissism, greed, psychopathy.
For example I used to work for someone on the rich list (in the UK). His bank account says he is very successful. But reviews of his products aren't great (good but not great), he literally cannot make a great product and he didn't understand why not (he asked once but didn't want to hear the answer). At best he got his massive wealth through well targeted products, at worst through luck (I don't mean to imply just luck by the way, many and various good characteristics were needed too), but either way he can't actually make good products. Other people at the company would disagree with me vehemently but how would 'you' know if I was accurate or not?
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I think we have some very different ideas about things. Strong economies are strong economies. I don't see personal financial profit as a politically sound ideal. I would say the wealth of the people in general is produced as a counter action against capitalistic mentalities.Capitalism is not failing. The strongest economies are all capitalistic.
I would also say those that benefit the most from capitalism are bound to spread the idea that all other systems don't work or cannot work. If they did this they personally would lose out on their profits.
I really think the world needs a very large injection of socialism. The answer of course is more about shades of grey than of black and white definitions.
As an example, in economics capitalism favours isolationist methods and riles against globalization. Although in some situations this globalization can be taken on by the capitalist mentality to further push its own personal agenda. There comes a point when the private wealth outways the government. Onc ethsi happens the government effectively collapses because it has no control over anything and the people voting see les and less effect of their vote having an effect. Capitalism will, and already has to a large degree, overwhelmed governmental powers. And remember the government is there for us, for the people, we are not there for the government. So if the government has less power then so does the entire population (for the most part). Of course the rich stay in power and their driving force is "profit" not social justice nor equality. It is essentially an idea that will always end in inequality and a social schism.
Of course there is good too. I just don't want governments run by businesses who care merely for profit not the freedom and opportunities of the people.
My answer is always the same when it comes to political solutions. My answer is EDUCATION. That though just opens up a whole number of other problems that take considerable time to measure and debate.
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What specific things would you like to see get this injection of socialism? Has high socialism proven to be effective in the past? I am thinking of communism of course.
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New York real estate as a business is arguably more cutthroat and competitive than the real estate business in Milwaukee, WI.Eduk wrote:Fortunately Trump is not in the position of dictator. I wouldn't blame all evils on him.
By the way how would you judge (after his full term/s) if he had been successful or not? It is that exact judgement which is so very hard to ascertain. For example some people believe he is a good business man and assume he has skills of management, efficiency, planning, drive, vision etc. Other people believe he is a terrible business man and assume he has skills of exploitation, narcissism, greed, psychopathy.
For example I used to work for someone on the rich list (in the UK). His bank account says he is very successful. But reviews of his products aren't great (good but not great), he literally cannot make a great product and he didn't understand why not (he asked once but didn't want to hear the answer). At best he got his massive wealth through well targeted products, at worst through luck (I don't mean to imply just luck by the way, many and various good characteristics were needed too), but either way he can't actually make good products. Other people at the company would disagree with me vehemently but how would 'you' know if I was accurate or not?
I say that because whatever Trump's defects he has done well in the New York market. Sure, he may have gotten assistance throughout life, but nearly everyone does on some scale. Just look at all the trainers, dieticians, medical professionals and large sums of money that goes into building and sustaining just a single professional athlete to keep the highly competitive. No one entirely lifts themselves up by their own bootstraps.
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Surely you can't just state he's done well in New York and then just leave it at that? Don't you need more than that?
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I live in the United States. And its is like living in Nazi Germany. Not because of Trump per se but because of the corrupt Democrats and Republicans with intelligence community that put out a level of propaganda today that might even exceed the levels of propaganda Nazi Germany put out.Grotto19 wrote:“Trump is on a learning curve” Yeah that’s was my biggest point. The job requires training beforehand of which Trump had none of.
“Expecting Trump to be superman on day one…” Give me a break are you serious. I would be thrilled if we could get through a week without him humiliating my nation. My highest aspirations for this clown is we don’t start a nuclear war. This is what you get when you put your crazy drunk uncle in charge of everything because he thinks he knows how to run a country. Spooler alert it is a really bad idea and lots of people will get hurt.
Trump is controlled by Neo-cons but they existed in the US Government before Trump. It is their policy agenda, along with factions of the Democrats that want to wage a secular religious crusade across earth, that will put all pieces in place for an accidental nuclear war. That along with Democrats and Republicans being influenced by the industries that make military weapons for wars including bombs.
So, it makes no sense to buy into propaganda that somehow Trump came along and put a loving, non-aggressive, non-military patrolling around earth United States of America, into some unique and historically unprecedented confrontation with another country or countries. I mean... look at US history. Just about every generation it goes to war. It is the only nation on earth to have ever used nuclear weapons on another country, on civilians.
As for "lack of experience," critics of Obama said the same thing, and then as now I find it invalid for both him and Trump. And I am one, gauged from a brief personality assessment created by a female agent in the FBI, that highly values experience. So, yeah, if you're a right-wing Brazilian politician that has made a career out of politics, wheeling and dealing, then you are experienced in the system of corruption in Brazilian politics. Within that corrupt system you can build your network, alliances, and learn to become a good player. But it does not necessarily follow--keeping with the case of Brazil (but any country)--that being an experienced political player in a system of corruption necessarily benefits "the people." Nor does it mean an outsider can't come in and turn out in short time to become a great elected representative for "the people."
I think as I pointed out before that arguably the greatest President Brazil ever had worked with his hands in blue collar labor his whole life and had no more than a 3rd grade education. President Lula.
Hillary Democrats and McCain Republicans were already and remain the greatest threat to all life on earth. Not just human life. As doctor Helen Caldicott says... "evolution" being annihilated on planet earth from mass nuclear war. Although, she may be exaggerating to some degree (or maybe not), I get her point.“You may critique Trump based on his current performance but you cannot conclude he is a failure until the completion of his term.” This is true. And as I am a theist I pray regularly that he is not as bad a nightmare as I think. I don’t believe prayers work btw but hell its only billions of lives on the line.
Propaganda teaches trust in the corrupt system with its established paid-off politicians. Just as it can be used in the private sector to promote trust in SERCO a company that has its hands in education, prisons, running nuclear weapons facilities, and cyber security.
The Biggest Company You've Never Heard Of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hSjloOXzXk&t=40s
Dr. Helen Caldicott at the San Francisco Public Library
Published on Aug 14, 2016
Nobel Peace Prize Nominee Dr. Helen Caldicott, known as the world’s foremost anti-nuclear activist, speaks about whether nuclear disarmament is achievable.
Dr. Helen Caldicott speaks about the uranium and medical after affects of the invasion of Iraq in this short interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujwoe0BViys
So, contrary to the CIA or Democrats or Republicans Trump did not get in office as President and create some historically unique chance the United States might end up in war nor nuclear war.
Trump will simply be a puppet for the corrupt American political system that pushes wars and more money be spent on buying military weapons.
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You mean you live in a homogenised society where expressing a difference of opinion could see you, and your family, imprisoned or worse?I live in the United States. And its is like living in Nazi Germany.
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The problem is Trump believed (in my opinion), as you do, that Congress and the White House , US politics in general is run like a business, like a legitimate corporation. They seem to operate much differently. The White House and Congress probably function more akin to an old Latin American Hacienda. I could be wrong about that because I do not know a lot about Haciendas. But the culture and system of Congress and the White House protects itself. One either plays ball in the system (which involves factions building alliances, just as politics in the Vatican plays out, and just as politics in Brazil plays out.)Spectrum wrote: It is not easy for leopards to change their spots.
Trump's business acumen and economic competence is definitely way off better than Clinton's.
I have taken into account Trump's lack of political savvy but with his inherent management and planning intelligence, he is a more likely success than Clinton albeit initial fumbles which is inevitable on the steep slope of any learning curve.
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