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I think Steve drinks the politically correct Kool-Aid that's destroying Europe
I’m saying you can’t get a “should” from an “is.”
A solution is needed for for a real problem and you concern is for politically correct niceties.
If Trump was saying that we have to pragmatically look for solutions to our biggest problems without worrying about whether those solutions offend anybody, I would broadly agree with him.
I wonder why? Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Trump has business interests there, would it?
Dachshund wrote:I think Trump is one of the best Presidents the US has ever had, for the simple reason that whether or not you personally agree or disagree with what he says, you can be confident, at least, what he says is what he actually means.
Steve3007 wrote:They've decided that they don't care that Trump is a liar and a ludicrous self-aggrandiser. They don't care that he knows almost nothing about the country of which he is president. They don't care about the groping. They don't care about anything except results. He has sold himself as the deal maker. The guy who fights dirty but gets results. If he delivers what he promised (a country of rich, happy coal miners and car manufacturers) then nothing else will matter. The end will entirely justify the means.
Steve3007 wrote:That, I think, is in particular what the right-wing religious people tell themselves. If their particular agenda is to promote what they see as old fashioned morality (complete banning of abortion, outlawing homosexuality and all that) and if Trump enables the kinds of politicians that can make that happen, then his own personal morality is irrelevant. He's a tool for doing a job. Tools are often dirty.
I think that's the mindset that brought him to power.
I think Trump is one of the best Presidents the US has ever had, for the simple reason that whether or not you personally agree or disagree with what he says, you can be confident, at least, what he says is what he actually means. With Trump there is no obfuscation, no sophistry, no labyrinthine rhetoric; he is a straight-shooter and has always been prepared to lay his political cards out clearly on the table for the world to see.
he is a straight-shooter and has always been prepared to lay his political cards out clearly on the table for the world to see.
An example of this is his position on Islamic terrorism. Trump promised during the 2016 election campaign that if elected he would take direct action to ban Muslim immigration into the United States.
...In addition to this, Trump's so-called "Muslim ban" s faced strident criticism and active opposition from many quarters of the liberal establishment in the US...
...immediately suspending the entry of aliens arriving from seven Muslim majority nations (Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Sudan and Somalia).
The blocking of the "Muslim ban" executive order was a humiliating political set back for Trump's fledgling administration; it was also a very personal defeat for Trump,- he was embarrassed and angered, and saw those responsible as being his enemies in the "politically correct" establishment.
Dachshund wrote:In June of this year after the deadly terrorist attack in London which claimed the lives of seven members of the public and wounded a further 48 Donald Trump tweeted:
" We must stop being politically correct and get down to the business of security for our people. If we don't get smart it will only get worse."
When,just a few months later, in early November another ISIS - inspired terror attack killed eight more people in New York City, Trump hit out again at "political correctness" with precisely the same message, re-emphasising that:
"We have to get much smarter and we have to get much less politically correct. We're so politically correct we're afraid to do anything."
By "We", Trump is referring to "We" who live in the advanced industrialised societies that collectively represent Western civilization today; "We" who embrace the values of a predominantly "white/European" Western cultural tradition.
I think Trump is right to observe that contemporary Western culture has become too "politically correct", that is, too tolerant and too liberal , in particular, with respect to critical issues like Muslim immigration that have , in my opinion, a very real potential to utterly destroy Western civilization as we know it today.
If any one is interested in debating this point, I would be grateful to hear what you think.
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