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Juice wrote:Realistically I believe that prisons should be so horrible and the punishments be so extreme that "before" someone decides to commit a crime, or break the law, they seek, and receive, the type of help some wish to provide after the crime is committed instead of prison. This approach would encourage personal responsibility and accountability. I would much rather my tax dollars and/or efforts go to rehabilitation of a well adjusted individual before they victimize innocent peaceful individuals. I believe this approach would decrease recidivism rates, especially if a person who commits a crime or breaks the law realizes that pre-crime rehabilitation is an available option better advantaged than spending more time in a horrible prison. For those who still don't get the message then underground Super Max prisons for lifers of the most violent individuals can be supported.
I would actually support such an approach over capital punishment, except for pedophile, rapist, murderers either singular or any combination there from.
athena wrote:Juice, do I understand you correctly? The cause of crime is external to the person who commits crime, and then the just and righteous thing to do is severely punish the criminal who is the result of external forces?
I really think an alternative to higher prison walls, is being more scientific about the causes of crime and the solution to correcting the problem.
Juice wrote:Athena please read my post carefully, you do not understand me correctly. Ultimately I don't care what "causes" crime in that when one person victimizes another then that person should be accountable and should accept responsibility for himself as to why he committed that crime and work for himself not to find himself in that situation without providing meaningless excuses. And this involves building trust mechanisms which includes trusting accountability for ones action, instead of some in society providing excuses for him not to own responsibility himself. I don't need to know a persons history in order for me to realize that the victim has a history too which provided him with the means not to become a victimizer himself. If that wasn't the case then either everyone would be in prison, or everyone would not be in prison.
Juice wrote:Realistically I believe that prisons should be so horrible and the punishments be so extreme that "before" someone decides to commit a crime, or break the law, they seek, and receive, the type of help some wish to provide after the crime is committed instead of prison.
Juice wrote:Belinda-I could provide my solution to the problem but I doubt there would be one person visiting this site that would agree with me even though I know that I am right. Simply, my idea involves capitalism and God. I can already hear teeth grinding.
You are in very dangerous waters here. Who is to judge who needs pre-crime rehabilitarion? How would this be legally enforced?I believe that pre-crime rehabilitation is the more human approach to encouraging individual responsibility and accountability towards preventing crime.
Scott wrote:Do you really think making the outcome even more unpleasant by throwing them in a inhumane punishment-focused prison as opposed to institutionalizing them in a humanely-run treatment facility would deter them from committing the act?
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