How would the world differed if Hitler had never existed?

oh, sure dear.
there is a widely quoted article in Jewish Quarterly with a Jewish columnist boasting about their role in the porn industry. Since I'm a new user I can't post link in two days to come. But you can locate the article by googling the term: Jewish Quarterly Triple-exthnics

Hitler had Jewish blood in him, no myth there. His orator was Jewish, the doctor who saved Goring's life during the Putsch was a Jew. Goring had a saying, I decide who is Jewish in Germany. When Hitler was marrying Eva Braun in the bunker, they had to ask if he had Jewish blood, he would not answer. Instead they were told to continue with the proceedings, as the leader did not have to answer for anything. It is thought that one of the reasons he left it until the end to get married, was not so that he was considered married to Germany, but that he did not want to pollute his Germany, with his own Jewish blood. In the bunker, his secretary said, we all would say, it's like Hitler is the only one who knows the script, and we can but blindly follow. In the end, Hitler said, everyone had gone mad.

Xris , Regarding your post that you'd love to hear the proof that Swiss bankers who backed Hitler were Jewish etc and that you will fear the worst without the proof. Basically I agree with your post.
As a 'white man' I consider myself reasonably Humane but, without providing 'proof' I believe many whites are in-humane, greedy, arrogant, 'money worshippers' etc. Although not necessarily agreeing that Tony Blair comes into any of the 'in-humane' category's it is generally accepted, within reason, that I have the right to proclaim he does?
It would be absurd to suggest that all Jews are evil, money-grabbing or anything else - but matters have seemingly been arranged over time that Jews are beyond open criticism but that its OK to criticise virtually all non-Jews!
If there is anything in my own 'belief' that way back, (well before any records are available) when 'money' was introduced to enable mankind to trade with each other and produce life-supporting products (basically food and housing) the opportunity was presented for 'money lenders' to begin their trade and act as go-betweens so that somebody good at building 'homes' could ply his trade and another could produce food etc and society could progress.
Clearly over the centuries money became a method of controlling the masses and Bankers became Slave-Drivers.
The Bankers, over many centuries, ended up controlling society and shaping it to their own design. The control of media, money, entertainment etc has become particularly relevant to the control of society nowadays and the Jews are clearly predominant in those industries. Others are beginning to latch-on (Russian 'business men' with massive amounts of money!) and the balance is clearly changing but the 'fact' must be that we are still a 'Slave Trade' society that has existed for many millennium and we are controlled by 'Slave Drivers' who it is becoming increasingly difficult to identify? The 'Jewish Question' is becoming irrelevant - it is now a pure 'Money Question' and unless we take care planet Earth will cease to support Human Live unless we adopt some form of (true) Democracy where we are not controlled by the 'Slave Drivers' (The Establishment) whose interest is largely to create discourse and wars.
'Economics' is the religion that enables the control of us. Money should be related to resources (basically natural resources) and distributed equally and not used to as a 'religion' to control society by having virtually all the money held by 'the 1% - each and every Human Being on Earth is arguably entitled to the same amount of money We are controlled by Money (Jewish, Swiss, French, German, British, American, Russian, etc etc- it matters not and The Establishment is becoming non-racial and non-genetic and the flux that enables them to control the World is Money)




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oh, sure dear.
there is a widely quoted article in Jewish Quarterly with a Jewish columnist boasting about their role in the porn industry. Since I'm a new user I can't post link in two days to come. But you can locate the article by googling the term: Jewish Quarterly Triple-exthnics

I'm not your dear. I respect your right to give an opinion but you need to back your claims with facts or you will be condemned. So lets hear it please.



Hime, I agree that Jews should be examined just like us all. But grand statements without evidence needs to be confronted. I oppose Israels occupation of Palestine. I will criticise anyone, Jew or gentile, because of their acts not their race. Jews by the act of their oppression over centuries with laws that prohibited them from certain occupations made them turn to money lending. They became insular and with right hated the cause of their oppression. It is the kind stereotyping, we have just observed, that has caused them to be persecuted.

Xris re "I agree that Jews should be examined just like us all. But grand statements without evidence needs to be confronted. I oppose Israels occupation of Palestine. I will criticise anyone, Jew or gentile, because of their acts not their race. Jews by the act of their oppression over centuries with laws that prohibited them from certain occupations made them turn to money lending. They became insular and with right hated the cause of their oppression. It is the kind stereotyping, we have just observed, that has caused them to be persecuted"

The problem is 'Jews are not examined just like us all' and it would be generally accepted that they are a clever and resourceful Race yet by their 'Leaders and 'spokespeoples' actions and words they seem to deliberately set out to bring criticism on themselves - why? Whatever the reason the result is they have vastly dis-proportionate control over the 'West' and industries that profit from War They also dominate the Press, entertainment industry etc that affect Society, especially the younger generation. The very existence of the Christian Religion, dominated by the Jews, (Christ was a Jew, his Disciples were Jews, Jesus' father, (God) must be a Jew etc)
Doesn't an enquiring mind suggest there's something a bit suspicious somewhere regarding the Religion handed down to us? Christianity seems to me to have been a very handy 'control tool' at the time to keep Slaves working away for their (relatively short) lives, especially if they were beginning to get a bit shirty about their Masters living the life of Riley?
"Work away for your Masters and you will enjoy 'Eternal Life (with my Dad and me in Heaven) whilst that wicked lot up on the Hill (Your Masters), will suffer 'Eternal Damnation') or words to that effect?
Everything fairly 'hunky dory' for the Masters until the coming of, say, Pathe News' in WW1 showing the virtual slaughter of millions of us (slaves) on all sides by our own 'Masters' and the beginning of the Information Era.
Big Lesson - 'necessary to control the media as well as the Money!
Whats next? Whatever the role played in history by the Jews and by the non-Jews, Money has got out of control and has become easily available in vast quantities by the Russian Maffia for example and many others That we, by our government are controlled by 'The Establishment' is surely beyond doubt? and the only Religion we now all worship is 'Money'
So whatever role the Jews now play in the game of life is less important than it used to be and it would be nice to think the Jews as a particularly clever people concentrated more on saving the Planet than destroying it in the name of Economics. Trouble is the 'Top Jews' still control vast amounts of 'Money' and discourse between Jews and non-Jews is to their (perceived) benefit. My suspicion is the (top) 'Jews' themselves cause the friction and it is their own people nowadays that suffer most (all by design?)
Economics is Bunkum and as the Christian Religion in the past controlled Slavery it is now controlled by Economics.


whilst they who may have been getting a bit fed up with which taught the Slaves to work hard for their Masters

I oppose Israels occupation of Palestine.

This is the correct way of putting it, almost.

It's not "the Jews" occupying Palestine, but some Israeli citizens, with the support of the Israeli government.

It should immediately be noted that many Israeli citizens, plus many Jewish people around the world, oppose the occupation.

I oppose the occupation myself, and see it as an effective debunking of the stereotype that "all Jews are smart", because the occupation is a truly dumb move in respect to the interests of the people of Israel. Some Jews are smart, and some are morons, just like every other group of people on Earth.

I'm not your dear. I respect your right to give an opinion but you need to back your claims with facts or you will be condemned. So lets hear it please.


Hime, I agree that Jews should be examined just like us all. But grand statements without evidence needs to be confronted. I oppose Israels occupation of Palestine. I will criticise anyone, Jew or gentile, because of their acts not their race. Jews by the act of their oppression over centuries with laws that prohibited them from certain occupations made them turn to money lending. They became insular and with right hated the cause of their oppression. It is the kind stereotyping, we have just observed, that has caused them to be persecuted.

Using friendly titles is common in my interactions. This way I believe we strengthen our human bonds. I am tired of seeing people having grudges and resentments against each other, this I think can counter it. But I definitely don't like to go against anyones personal preferences.

I pretty much have the same opinion about Jews. While Jewish individuals who have committed crimes must be blamed and held accountable there must be no bigotry held against them as a group or race. And I think that is what sane and moral thinking implies. But I have to disagree with you on the roots of Anti-Semitism. Anti-semitism was originally a reaction to Jewish racial Supremacism which is evident in Jewish traditions that goes back to thousands of years ago. So it has not been the Christian intolerance that has caused anti-Semitism but the roots can be traced back into Jewish community itself. But sometimes gentile responses to Jewish extremism victimized many innocent Jews who had no part in the atrocities of their fellow men. But still the first cause of these angry outburst is the Jewish religion itself. Even Martin Luther wrote a whole book exposing hate-filled teachings of Jewish scriptures against Christianity and Christians.

The kind of anti Gentile exploitative practice common among Jewish money lenders have also initially originated from ancient Jewish religious teachings. Talmud clearly states that it is ok to kill, kidnap, and steal from non Jews. It also explicitly says that it is ok to give usury to Gentiles but not to fellow Jews.

and here i cite the reference that proves my claims that Jews have prominent presence in the porn industry, The Jewish Quarterly, Triple-exthnic by Nathan Abrams, January 24th 2012.I repeat I can't post links. some quotes from the article,
". . . theres no getting away from the fact that secular Jews have played (and still continue to play) a disproportionate role throughout the adult film industry in America . . . why are we ashamed of the Jewish role in the porn industry? We might not like it, but the Jewish role in this field has been significant and it is about time it was written about seriously. . . Jewish involvement in porn, by this argument, is the result of an atavistic hatred of Christian authority. they are trying to weaken the dominant culture in America by moral subversion."

And Im sorry to reference and quote this unpleasant stuff here. But I had to substantiate my opinions, and truth is bitter at times.

-- Updated January 24th, 2012, 7:48 pm to add the following --

Wow. Theist, thanks for revealing your hateful fanatic side. I now see all conversation with you is utterly pointless, and your "I love God" ranting is the worst kind of phony baloney. Welcome to my ignore list, and no, I'm not Jewish.

I ignore your offense, my friend! My stance on elements of extremism that exists within the Jewish community was very clear in my recent posts in this topic. Just like every sound-minded person who is critical of Jewish tradition and its latest secular expression, Zionism , I don't oppose Jews collectively. But I'm outspoken in exposing criminal among them.

I'm looking forward to how you can objectively explain to us why pornography is wrong?

Pornography undermines a sane and harmonious sexual life. Preoccupation with sex destroys the foundation of family, and empowers the kind of mentality that leads to sexual crimes like rape. Pornography by undermining family threatens reproduction which is crucial to our survival. Sexual pleasure has an existantial purpose and that is reproduction, and it must not be seen as an end per se. therefore promotion of pornography is a crime against humanity.

My stance on elements of extremism that exists within the Jewish community was very clear in my recent posts in this topic. Just like every sound-minded person who is critical of Jewish tradition and its latest secular expression, Zionism , I don't oppose Jews collectively. But I'm outspoken in exposing criminal among them.

I reject extremism, you reject extremism in Jews.

I'm outspoken in exposing criminals, you are outspoken in exposing Jewish criminals.

I object to child porn, you object to Jewish porn.

It appears we won't have to bother to expose your hate, as you plan to do it yourself.

Pornography undermines a sane and harmonious sexual life. Preoccupation with sex destroys the foundation of family, and empowers the kind of mentality that leads to sexual crimes like rape. Pornography by undermining family threatens reproduction which is crucial to our survival. Sexual pleasure has an existantial purpose and that is reproduction, and it must not be seen as an end per se. therefore promotion of pornography is a crime against humanity.

I'm sorry Theist, that is not good enough.
What is a sane and harmonious sexual life? As far as I’m aware there’s no rules on how two consenting adults must carry out there sexual activities.

Theist said:
"Preoccupation with sex destroys the foundation of family, and empowers the kind of mentality that leads to sexual crimes like rape."
Where is the proof of this? Has there been a documented survey that statistically proves that a man or a woman that watches porn directly leads one to be a rapist? Psychologists will state the most rapist commit there act as a way of displaying there dominance, power and control.
How does watching pornography undermine families?
Reproduction maybe crucial for the survival of a species, but humans are not at risk of going extinct. The majority of our current global issues are a direct result of over population, thus deducing that sex for the intention of reproducing has a negative affect on the world.
What gives you an authoritive position to assert that sex is ONLY for reproducing? Dolphins have sex for pleasure.
So NO you have in no way demonstrated how pornography is a crime against humanity at all. All you have done is given your own reasons which are obviously dogmatic and subjective not "objective".

Pornography undermines a sane and harmonious sexual life. Preoccupation with sex destroys the foundation of family, and empowers the kind of mentality that leads to sexual crimes like rape. Pornography by undermining family threatens reproduction which is crucial to our survival. Sexual pleasure has an existantial purpose and that is reproduction, and it must not be seen as an end per se. therefore promotion of pornography is a crime against humanity.

I'm sorry Theist, that is not good enough.
What is a sane and harmonious sexual life? As far as I’m aware there’s no rules on how two consenting adults must carry out there sexual activities.

Theist said:
"Preoccupation with sex destroys the foundation of family, and empowers the kind of mentality that leads to sexual crimes like rape."
Where is the proof of this? Has there been a documented survey that statistically proves that a man or a woman that watches porn directly leads one to be a rapist? Psychologists will state the most rapist commit there act as a way of displaying there dominance, power and control.
How does watching pornography undermine families?
Reproduction maybe crucial for the survival of a species, but humans are not at risk of going extinct. The majority of our current global issues are a direct result of over population, thus deducing that sex for the intention of reproducing has a negative affect on the world.
What gives you an authoritive position to assert that sex is ONLY for reproducing? Dolphins have sex for pleasure.
So NO you have in no way demonstrated how pornography is a crime against humanity at all. All you have done is given your own reasons which are obviously dogmatic and subjective not "objective".

Your defense of pornography is utterly preposterous and heinous. Pornography is shown to promote sexual violence against women, promote child abuse, and promote a humiliating image of woman in the eyes of male viewers. Pornography undermines man's natural and moderate sexual attitudes and turns him into a hedonist beast with a sex pistol at will. I recommend you to read Getting Off: Pornography and the End of Masculinity by Robert Jensen, a scholarly treatise demonstrating the evil of pornography industry. Most young women and girls involved in porn are victims of sex traffic industry.

It's so frustrating and shocking that any one even begins to consider pornography as a moral enterprise. It's tragic that the idea of moral relativism has only contributed to weakening of human society.

Again, a purely dogmatic stance which you have possibly been indoctrinated with. Perhaps you view porn as sexually violent against woman; perhaps you view it as a way to promote child abuse, however that is simply your experience of watching it which is purely subjective. Yes other woman may feel it degrades them just like prostitution, that does not however mean it is objectively wrong for women to participate in the filming of it. As for the black market industry, I'm sorry but that is non-essential to the initial subject. There is a black market in many industries which include human trafficking and the pornography that is of a black market category is called snuff which is highly illegal and not readily available. The majority of porn is manufactured through legitimate film industries whose '"stars" are more than willing.
So your claim that "most" woman in porn are victims of trafficking, unless accompanied with proof is simply a fabricated assumption you have constructed to justify your position.


Theist said:
"Pornography undermines man's natural and moderate sexual attitudes and turns him into a hedonist beast with a sex pistol at will."

Again this is simply you personal opinion, which holds no weight to the original question; Objectively explain why pornography is wrong, not why YOU think it's wrong. Theist you are simply not providing any evidence or proof to back up your position, your simply displaying your intolerable disgust for it.

What I believe is shocking and completely wrong is that someone thinks that sexual activity between two consenting adults should for some reason be subject to moral consideration, weather they be of the same sex or not, has absolutely no consequence on the rest of humanity. If people want to be filmed while doing this so others can watch and get sexually excited about it, great; no one is being physically harmed.
Of cause there are always extreme cases where acts of any sort become unhealthy weather it be sex addicts or online gamming addicts, this is where the need for either self control or support maybe required.

Making blanket declarations about porn is as silly as making sweeping declarations about Jews, blacks, theists, midgets, right handed people, etc.

Porn is a huge industry, which represents the full range of human sexual expression. Porn is not one thing. Some of it is innocent and charming, some of it is utterly despicable, some of it is artful and creative, some of it is tasteless and boring, etc etc.

In a desperate attempt to wander back towards the topic was Hitler's evilness a result of sexual dysfunction, and would porn and hookers have prevented the Holocaust?

Theist. If you believe pornography is evil it comes from a personal perspective. It can not be used to condemn Jews in general. I do believe we all are envious of the jewish ability. They have proved more than once their general intelligence is above us gentiles.

The History of jewish massacres in Europe has been well documented and I can hardly blame them for not exactly liking Christians.

So what about these Swiss bankers have you found any evidence that they were Jewish? I am not going to condemn you just yet but you do need to defend your opinions and your statements.

By the way, Italians are all gangsters, Germans are all bullies, the Swiss make cuckoo clocks and the English smell.