The Forum: A True Deomcracy

I won't go into the infrasructure of the Forum, that I'm not ready to reveal. But this part of the forum hasn't had much discussion for awhile and so I offer this excerpt from my paper (first draft):

The world is run by the rich and powerful, and we all agree to this. We live our lives ran by another. We agree to war and taxation without a voice. But it doesn’t have to be like this, to have someone else govern and make our decisions for us. We can break free the chains of misrepresentation and corruption with the Forum.

The Forum:
A method of self-governance in which all decisions are made directly by the people whom will be directly affected by the decision. The decision is carried out by those who maintain the Forum: the Enactors. Both the people and the Enactors are held accountable by the Enforcers who are in turn held accountable by the people.


What are your thoughts on this? agian, I haven't revealed the infrastructure of the system--which is vital to the system--but it raises questions about centralized government, the loss of representation, the gains of democracy, and the accountability of those within the government. I've been working on the Forum for awhile now, and intend to release the entirety of the paper to a few journals and excerpts to my now forum of choice, but I need it edited and checked by a few people before I'm ready to do so. Agian, what are you're thoughts on True Democracy?

i think this would be a more pure form of democracy than what we have now in north america and most of the world, a representative democracy (as i say, rule by the CHOSEN by the masses), which i find is not a democracy at all, but a direct democracy, a TRUE democracy, is what this is.

That's exactly what I'm going for, a more direct way for the people of a nation to decide how it is ran. I believe that it is the government's job to carry out that decision, not to make it for us. While we do choose our leaders, we don't know exactly how they will vote or why they will be making their decisions. Motives are sticky things usually, especially when it comes to politics. Those who are in the United Sates, have to likely canidiates this next election, but I don't know these strangers. They both give promises and whatnot, but I've never had dinner with these people. How can I vote for these men to represent me in their decision making with an autonomous vote? Their decisions will be inaccurate to mine to say the least. Better to remove them from the decision making proccess or keep them as advisors than to let them do it for me. How many of us want to see our country removed from war? (sorry for those who don't live in the united states, its a generilization in the hopes of strong language.) How many of us want the price of oil to be regulated or at least see their profits reduced to normal levels? And yet our decision makers go on and on without results. A True Democracy might make decisions quicklier if the proper infrastructure was found.

I won't go into the infrasructure of the Forum, that I'm not ready to reveal. But this part of the forum hasn't had much discussion for awhile and so I offer this excerpt from my paper (first draft):

The world is run by the rich and powerful, and we all agree to this. We live our lives ran by another. We agree to war and taxation without a voice. But it doesn’t have to be like this, to have someone else govern and make our decisions for us. We can break free the chains of misrepresentation and corruption with the Forum.

The Forum: A method of self-governance in which all decisions are made directly by the people whom will be directly affected by the decision. The decision is carried out by those who maintain the Forum: the Enactors. Both the people and the Enactors are held accountable by the Enforcers who are in turn held accountable by the people.


What are your thoughts on this? agian, I haven't revealed the infrastructure of the system--which is vital to the system--but it raises questions about centralized government, the loss of representation, the gains of democracy, and the accountability of those within the government. I've been working on the Forum for awhile now, and intend to release the entirety of the paper to a few journals and excerpts to my now forum of choice, but I need it edited and checked by a few people before I'm ready to do so. Agian, what are you're thoughts on True Democracy?

I agree that direct voting by the people is more democratic. In fact I would say it is the only way to have a real democracy. I do not know if that would be ideal however. The majority of people, myself included, are vastly uninformed as to the many workings of the political arena, not to mention law making. To entrust us with the complexities of governing directly could be quite similar to putting a blind man in the drivers seat of your car.

Then again it has come to my attention that many of our current leaders also don't know much about whats going on, that they rely on lobbyists and their party to get informed. Perhaps they are no more capable than I am of running the nation. One could argue I suppose that we can not do much worse.

My current thoughts on true democracy are a bit muddled by the problem of creating a new structure in government so that the positions are directly elected by the people, and for the people. The problem is with the new design, and then how to reach a consensus within the new design to make decisions.

Another problem is with the education of the masses. Don't get me wrong; it's not that I think I am an erudite, but there is much diversity out there, and too much traditional thinking at this moment (and unfortunately low awareness), so it would be difficult to actually achieve a paradigm shift, especially for those who are content or successful in the current one.

And the most difficult problem of them all is that the people who actually rule the democracies (the oligarchies) are not going to allow true democracy to happen...

I won't go into the infrasructure of the Forum, that I'm not ready to reveal. But this part of the forum hasn't had much discussion for awhile and so I offer this excerpt from my paper (first draft):

The world is run by the rich and powerful, and we all agree to this. We live our lives ran by another. We agree to war and taxation without a voice. But it doesn’t have to be like this, to have someone else govern and make our decisions for us. We can break free the chains of misrepresentation and corruption with the Forum.

The Forum: A method of self-governance in which all decisions are made directly by the people whom will be directly affected by the decision. The decision is carried out by those who maintain the Forum: the Enactors. Both the people and the Enactors are held accountable by the Enforcers who are in turn held accountable by the people.


What are your thoughts on this? agian, I haven't revealed the infrastructure of the system--which is vital to the system--but it raises questions about centralized government, the loss of representation, the gains of democracy, and the accountability of those within the government. I've been working on the Forum for awhile now, and intend to release the entirety of the paper to a few journals and excerpts to my now forum of choice, but I need it edited and checked by a few people before I'm ready to do so. Agian, what are you're thoughts on True Democracy?

Without "the infrastructure of the system" it is impossible to make an' informed' comment. However, it sounds like what is already in place in our current democracy just with different names for the hierarchy. Who chooses those representing the FORUM, the Enactors and Enforcers? How would these people be anymore effective or trustworthy than what we already have? "A method of self-governance in which all decisions are made directly by the people whom will be directly affected by the decision", even within this scenario all people would not agree. Majority will rule?

Good point Misty. The concept of the tyranny of the majority is not just a theory it has manifested many times. Mob mentality can be quite dangerous, and often act in ways it would regret later.