anarchyisbliss wrote:Martin Ekdahl wrote:anarchyisbliss wrote:Martin Ekdahl wrote:anarchyisbliss wrote:Hitler/The NAZIs banned genetically modified organisms from the German food system, the promoted a vegan lifestyle with a low environmental impact, they built the safest highway in the world, the promoted environmental protection, the lowered the unemployment rate to an international low, and Germany had the lowest recorded crime rate under their regime.
They did one bad thing: The Holocaust, but a lot of good things that they don't get credit for. At least in American history classes.
Okey: I'm a vegetarian myself so I like vegetarianism being promoted. But, Hitlers impact both on public health and environment/animals?. I just don't know. The highway was good for it's time. But today it is called the great Autobahn Infarct. I would know, because I live in Germany. And about unemployment/crime rates? Well, if you kill everyone that you find suspicious, kill all disabled and "weak", send millions to kill and die on the front, promote children to generals.. you will have no crime/unemployment anymore and no people either. I find a government that under so short time destroys so much infrastructure, population and in the end doesn't manage to even exist everything but brilliant. Even Mugabe or Kim Il Sung must have credit of being more brilliant than those buffoons.
I am also a vegetarian, and it is nice to see other vegetarians on the forum. What you say about the crime rates and population is true. But the NAZIs did do a lot to help the environment and promote vegetarianism. I'm not saying that they were a perfect government, but they weren't completely horrible either.
In the case of promoting vegetarianism I think the Nazis caused more antagonism than goodwill. It is a standing statement I hear every time I talk with people about vegetarianism: "So you are a vegetarian? Did you know Hitler was a vegetarian?". The logic goes Nazis=Vegetarians hence Vegetarians=Nazis. For that reason must I not only explain Why I am a vegetarian, but also that I am not a militant vegan (which I by all given logic must be:roll:) plus that vegetarianism doesn't have anything to do with Nazism.
That may be true. People should be vegetarian by choice, not by force. Although I'm sure that the rest of the planet enjoyed that short period of time in which the environment was being harmed a little less. And yes, it would be very ignorant to say that because Hitler was a vegetarian that vegetarianism must correlate to Nazism.
But was the environment really harmed a little less? Billions of tons of chemicals was left in forests. Ships full of hazardous metal and chemical cargo sunk to the bottom of oceans, gas-, chemical-, biological (and as a result of Nazi aggression) nuclear weapons were used. People was forced to eat everything that moved (and didn't) move. Explosions day and night. A hysterical race on natural resources. Experiments conducted with chemicals... Do I have to go on?