Is abortion murder?
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Can you SINCERELY tell me, Jan that you feel NOTHING in your heart, no sense of sorrow or sadness, no sense of the tragic, no sense of that which is dark and wicked in America's abortion industry?
This is the test The Natural Law theorist would have you to apply in order to discern the truth of the matter.
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Abortion is abortion, not murder.
Hunting is hunting, not murder.
Slaughtering is slaughtering, not murder.
Death sentences are death sentences, not murder.
Using disinfectants is simply using disinfectants, not murder of microbes.
Clearing land is clearing land, not murder of ecosystems and their inhabitants.
Killing in war is war, not murder.
Refusal of welfare and heath services is refusal of welfare and health, not murder.
All of these things kill in great numbers but only murder as logically defined by law is actual murder, obviously. Death and destruction are part of life. We kill each other, either by decision, neglect or participation in a system that kills all the time, every day, day after day. Not everyone can be saved. Life is brutal and it always has been. Be grateful that you slipped through the net and try to be kind to those who might depend on your mercy.
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Murder, of course, is just a word, and where and how it is applied has a strong emotional component. When I swat a mosquito who is just interested in a quick snack I consider myself a murderer as I find the morality of humans far less appealing than that of mosquitoes who have not a bit of the evil intentions of much of humanity. I can spare an occasional drop of blood for a mosquito who has been duly certified by the health department as free of infectious diseases, They, in turn, must agree to feed a delightful bat in need. That's the contract we each sign before being born. Unborn babies must take their chances as we all do and if they try to sneak into this universe where the family is too poor to sustain them or otherwise have not the intent nor means to give them a good sendoff, they have to accept the consequences.Greta wrote: ↑May 26th, 2018, 3:55 am Murder is murder.
Abortion is abortion, not murder.
Hunting is hunting, not murder.
Slaughtering is slaughtering, not murder.
Death sentences are death sentences, not murder.
Using disinfectants is simply using disinfectants, not murder of microbes.
Clearing land is clearing land, not murder of ecosystems and their inhabitants.
Killing in war is war, not murder.
Refusal of welfare and heath services is refusal of welfare and health, not murder.
All of these things kill in great numbers but only murder as logically defined by law is actual murder, obviously. Death and destruction are part of life. We kill each other, either by decision, neglect or participation in a system that kills all the time, every day, day after day. Not everyone can be saved. Life is brutal and it always has been. Be grateful that you slipped through the net and try to be kind to those who might depend on your mercy.
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No I am not. Are you familiar with the trend towards improvement in essentially every field over time as pertains to issues associated with physical or intellectual input?Dachshund wrote: ↑May 25th, 2018, 7:05 amTell me LuckyR, are you familiar with the basic theoretical tenets of The Natural Law ( the notion of The Natural MORAL Law,I mean) as it was expounded by ancient philosophers like Cicero,Seneca and the Roman jurisconsults, for example, and as it was utilised in the context English Common Law jurisprudence?LuckyR wrote: ↑May 19th, 2018, 2:12 am The attitude of the so called pro-life individuals towards contraception is the giveaway. If the issue was saving fetuses then those guys would be the number one proponents of birth control to make abortion unnecessary. Yet they aren't. No, it's really about fighting maternal autonomy, not saving babies.
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The Enlightenment era - the age of reason - was grounded on the notion of improvement. The faith of the Enlightenment was that man could use his capacity reason to illuminate the darkness of ignorance and liberate himself from the irrational "mind - forged manacles"of superstition and religious dogma. The quintessential spirit of the Enlightenment was the spirit of CHANGE, a belief in the perpetual need for progressive change; a conviction that the "status quo" and all it represented of the accumulated wisdom and knowledge of the past was never good enough - that the existing state of affairs in any human State could and should always be improved . Kant's famous exhortation to humanity "Sapere aude !!" , that is, dare to think for yourself, dare to know by yourself, dare to be wise, dare to trust that your human reason, can BY ITSELF, ALONE AND UNGUIDED by any kind external knowledge (like that, for example, of the reveal supernatural knowledge of Christian faith), has an unlimited potential. Dare be bold in believing that human rationality has the innate capacity to conceive of, and then implement, the kind of innovations and progressive changes that will advance the State ( i.e. human society) ever closer in the future towards an ideal utopia - towards a veritable paradise of perfect peace, complete happiness and pure moral goodness on Earth.
Guess what the Enlightenment faith gave us LuckyR ? Guess what man's arrogant assumption that he was clever enough by himself to bring about ever more happiness, peace, goodness, justice...etc on Earth ended up resulting in ? Guess what the Enlightenment mantra of CHANGE, CHANGE, CHANGE, PROGRESS, PROGRESS, PROGRESS gave Western civilization in the modern era? I'll tell you... It gave us: tyranny, violent global conflict, mass murder/genocide, an intensity and depth of human suffering and misery, a destruction and devastation of the natural environment, all of a scale so monumental, all of a kind so nightmarish and terrible that the mind reels in attempting to grasp the reality of the collective disasters. Disasters - in the relatively brief ( historically speaking ) period of time since the birth of the Enlightenment in the 17th century (with the work of Hobbes, Descartes, Bacon and Spinoza) to date, of a nature absolutely unprecedented in 6000 years of human history : the Great War of 1914-1918, the rise of German National Socialism under Hitler and the Second World War, the holocaust, Hiroshima/Nagasaki, the insane totalitarian ideologies that spawned the evil empires of Mao and Stalin, the Cold War, late neoliberal techno-corporate capitalism, global warming, the domination and enslavement of Western man's consciousness by a soul-destroying, nihilistic, amoral instrumental technological rationality, and the list of horrors goes ON AND ON AND ON AND ON
The Enlightenment project and the philosophy progressive Liberalism it unleashed on Western modernity with the French Revolution FAILED BIG TIME. Do you geddit LuckyR ? Or do I need to start drawing pictures for you ?
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