Looking for feedback on my new book
- Mysterio448
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Looking for feedback on my new book
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You can find the book here: "The Explanation of Life" by Mysterio448
- Burning ghost
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Re: Looking for feedback on my new book
I don't have a kindle so cannot read it though. Hope you get some critic.
- Spiral Out
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Re: Looking for feedback on my new book
Your point with the nihilist view is assumptive of nihilists having no substantive answer to your particular question(s), which are subjective in themselves and do not reflect on the objective nature of the primary question you ask, that is, the "why" of life.
The other is the assumption of what you consider to be "complexity", which must be relative to some presumable non-complex reference. A simple sphere is infinitely more "complex" than a void, for example.
If life is absurd then your question as to the "why" of life is even more absurd still.
You will never find a "satisfactory" answer to your questions. The ultimate result of any of this amounts to absolutely nothing if you understand the scale of what is, and more importantly, what is not.
There are no systems, and therefore there are no mistakes.
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Re: Looking for feedback on my new book
You don't need a kindle specifically. You can read any kindle ebook on your PC or an Android device by using the Kindle app, which is available on the Amazon website.Burning ghost wrote:Congratulations on completing your book.
I don't have a kindle so cannot read it though. Hope you get some critic.
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Which is why I emphasized the importance in asking the right questions, i.e. questions that have answers.Spiral Out wrote:The primary critique I would offer is that it is assumed there is an answer to any given question. The question remains, but the existence of a question does not necessitate the existence of an answer to that question.
I understand "complexity" to be the totality of coherently interacting parts within a whole. Complexity does not necessarily have to be compared to a "non-complex" reference, only a "less-complex" reference.Spiral Out wrote:The other is the assumption of what you consider to be "complexity", which must be relative to some presumable non-complex reference. A sphere is infinitely more "complex" than a void, for example.
You seem to associate "why" with a "reason", when I associate it with an "explanation". Even absurd things which have no reason or purpose can have an explanation.Spiral Out wrote:If life is absurd then your question as to the "why" of life is even more absurd still.
Then why not read the whole book?Spiral Out wrote:You will never find a "satisfactory" answer to your questions. The ultimate result of any of this amounts to absolutely nothing if you understand the scale of what is, and more importantly, what is not.
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How do you mean?Spiral Out wrote: There are no systems, and therefore there are no mistakes.
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Re: Looking for feedback on my new book
The only questions that have answers are the questions that are entirely subjective. Therefore, the answer to those questions will be different with each person and they will all be correct. There is nothing to be gained from asking such questions, at least not in any supposedly "objective" manner.Mysterio448 wrote:Which is why I emphasized the importance in asking the right questions, i.e. questions that have answers.
Are you in fact considering your questions from an "objective" viewpoint?
What do you mean by "coherently interacting"? And what is the totality of this "whole" you are contemplating?Mysterio448 wrote:I understand "complexity" to be the totality of coherently interacting parts within a whole. Complexity does not necessarily have to be compared to a "non-complex" reference, only a "less-complex" reference.
Why are you dissatisfied with the nihilist explanation? Does is not create an enjoyable emotional state?Mysterio448 wrote:You seem to associate "why" with a "reason", when I associate it with an "explanation". Even absurd things which have no reason or purpose can have an explanation.
I wish I could but I simply do not have enough time to do so. If you would direct me to the most substantive points in your book then I would gladly give you feedback and discuss at length your ideas on those points.Mysterio448 wrote:Then why not read the whole book?
Spiral Out wrote:There are no systems, and therefore there are no mistakes.
A "system" is a concept that is applied by a subjective entity to any particular property of an objective environment that has some apparent perceived functionality. However, such functionality is only applicable to the extent that the subjective entity perceives it to be, and relative only to that entity's well being as it relates to either "design" or any supposed "mistakes".Mysterio448 wrote:How do you mean?
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Re: Looking for feedback on my new book
The best way to accomplish this would probably be to post selected sections of the book here, and invite members to comment on those sections.Mysterio448 wrote: I would really like to know what people think about it.
- Alec Smart
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Re: Looking for feedback on my new book
Damn you, now he'll have to think of another excuse.Mysterio448 wrote:You don't need a kindle specifically. You can read any kindle ebook on your PC or an Android device by using the Kindle app, which is available on the Amazon website.Burning ghost wrote:Congratulations on completing your book.
I don't have a kindle so cannot read it though. Hope you get some critic.
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Re: Looking for feedback on my new book
This might be hard to do because the book is structured in a holistic and interconnected way. In order to understand the whole, you have to look at all the parts. If I isolated certain excerpts of the book, they might come off as meaningless. The book is now available for free for a limited time, so anyone can just get the book, read as much of it as suits them, and then comment on whatever parts they wish to comment on.Ormond wrote:The best way to accomplish this would probably be to post selected sections of the book here, and invite members to comment on those sections.Mysterio448 wrote: I would really like to know what people think about it.
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I'm not sure what you mean by this, but it seems false to me. There are plenty of objectively answerable questions.Spiral Out wrote: The only questions that have answers are the questions that are entirely subjective.
Yes.Spiral Out wrote:Are you in fact considering your questions from an "objective" viewpoint?
"Coherently interacting" refers to parts or components interacting in a coherent, non-random way.Spiral Out wrote:What do you mean by "coherently interacting"? And what is the totality of this "whole" you are contemplating?
Spiral Out wrote:Why are you dissatisfied with the nihilist explanation? Does is not create an enjoyable emotional state?
I think I made it clear in the introduction what my problem was with the nihilist explanation. As to what effect it has on my emotional state, that has nothing to do with the truthfulness of the nihilist explanation.
This would be hard to do. The book has a rather holistic and interconnected structure, so individual parts of it isolated from the whole are not as meaningful as when understood in context.Spiral Out wrote:I wish I could but I simply do not have enough time to do so. If you would direct me to the most substantive points in your book then I would gladly give you feedback and discuss at length your ideas on those points.
I don't understand your logic here. You say that a system only exists insomuch as a person perceives it to exist; but assuming this to be true, how does this preclude the existence of systems? The existence of anything in the world can only be determined by our perceptions. Just because we can only know the world through our imperfect perceptions does not itself mean that there is no world beyond those perceptions.Spiral Out wrote: A "system" is a concept that is applied by a subjective entity to any particular property of an objective environment that has some apparent perceived functionality. However, such functionality is only applicable to the extent that the subjective entity perceives it to be, and relative only to that entity's well being as it relates to either "design" or any supposed "mistakes".
- Ormond
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Re: Looking for feedback on my new book
Yes, people can do this. But why would they?Mysterio448 wrote: The book is now available for free for a limited time, so anyone can just get the book, read as much of it as suits them, and then comment on whatever parts they wish to comment on.
No offense, but your opening post and sales page on Amazon invest close to zero effort in to giving us a reason to do so.
I dunno. Give it a try. If you get the feedback you are seeking, then there's no problem that needs to be solved.
- Mysterio448
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Re: Looking for feedback on my new book
Because my book is a philosophical book, and this is a philosophy forum. Furthermore, I actually think my book is pretty good. I think a lot of people who read at least the introduction will be compelled to read more.Ormond wrote:
Yes, people can do this. But why would they?
Can you elaborate? What exactly is wrong with my opening post and with my Amazon sales page? When Scott advertised his new ebook during a free promotion, I got a copy. There was another poster somewhere who also was giving away free copies of an ebook, and I got that one too. I don't see any reason why others wouldn't do the same with my book. A free giveaway can inspire a lot of curiosity.Ormond wrote:No offense, but your opening post and sales page on Amazon invest close to zero effort in to giving us a reason to do so.
- Alec Smart
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That's true. It makes me curious as to why, if the book is so good, you're having to give it away.Mysterio448 wrote: A free giveaway can inspire a lot of curiosity.
- Mysterio448
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Re: Looking for feedback on my new book
Because I just published it, and no one knows about it or about me as an author.Alec Smart wrote:That's true. It makes me curious as to why, if the book is so good, you're having to give it away.Mysterio448 wrote: A free giveaway can inspire a lot of curiosity.
- Alec Smart
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Re: Looking for feedback on my new book
I wish BMW used the same sales technique.Mysterio448 wrote:
Because I just published it, and no one knows about it.
- Spiral Out
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Re: Looking for feedback on my new book
Before I read any further into your book, I'll need you to resolve one very critical contradiction in the statements you make at the very beginning of your book.Mysterio448 wrote:I think I made it clear in the introduction what my problem was with the nihilist explanation.
You've summarily rejected the nihilist explanation of life using the concept of meaning and purpose with the example of the process of oxidative phosphorylation within mitochondria which you say is an "ingenious process" which you claim is "such a meaningful process" and which apparently you believe to prove "objective meaning and purpose in the universe".
Then, not more than a handful of paragraphs later, you claim your previous talk of meaning and purpose to be a "bit of a misdirection" as you "have come to the realization that life does not have a meaning or purpose to be found", but that what life does have is an explanation.
The nihilist explanation says that life has no intrinsic (objective) meaning, purpose or value.
So my point is that you have claimed that you have come to the realization that life has no meaning or purpose but has an explanation yet you have rejected the explanation that life has no meaning or purpose (nihilism)!
Please explain.
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Re: Looking for feedback on my new book
No need to. I don't own a computer or pad thingy. I only have my phoneAlec Smart wrote:Damn you, now he'll have to think of another excuse.Mysterio448 wrote: (Nested quote removed.)
You don't need a kindle specifically. You can read any kindle ebook on your PC or an Android device by using the Kindle app, which is available on the Amazon website.
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