Trying Not To Offend People
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I agree, but the true struggles com into play whereby you are being controversial and struggling to say "Just hear me out, no matter how crazy and immoral and wildly insane my idea sounds, it's worth a listen." In acknowledging its abstract or 'out' nature, for lack of a better term, you have won and lost half the battle. You may win or lose in the battle, but who knows what will happen in the long term 'war of ideas'.Vivek7 wrote: ↑February 14th, 2018, 12:10 pm I often cannot help it. I will offend myself if I do not offend others or vice versa. When an argument commences I have to agree or disagree and if I choose to agree to the thing I have already disagreed there arises a problem and I am in that case offending myself. I must do justice to myself or else I may silently be conflicting with the person I have agreed with. This demands a great deal of meditation but we humans living in a city of hustle bustle try to comfort at our expenses it creates a mountain of pains.
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and the difference being that in the first case you're relying on the recipient having the intelligence to realise they are being insulted.
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So no penalty for manslaughter, just murder.
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While somewhat true, coming off like a middle schooler always makes one look childish to most with any life experience.
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So if someone disagrees with your you interpret this as an insult? IOW your interpretation of 'espousing ideas that run counter to other's' entails that it contains an insult. Subtle insults are not just present in a subset of cases, but all of them.
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No but I know a lot of people who do.Karpel Tunnel wrote: ↑June 18th, 2018, 2:33 amSo if someone disagrees with your [opinion] you interpret this as an insult?
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Hm.Mark1955 wrote: ↑June 19th, 2018, 9:29 amNo but I know a lot of people who do.Karpel Tunnel wrote: ↑June 18th, 2018, 2:33 am
So if someone disagrees with your [opinion] you interpret this as an insult?
Two possible approaches are described: 1) one is espousing ideas that run counter the other person's ideas which imply that their worldview is wrong and 2) one where there is name calling and insults.Lucky R wrote:
There is a big difference between espousing ideas that run counter to other'st and thereby imply (yet not explicitly state) that their worldview is wrong on the one hand and resorting to infantile name-calling and insults on the other.
You wrote, it seemed to me, as if in both cases there is an insult, but in the first case it is implied.
IOW if you challenge someone's worldview it is an insult.
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It is interesting to note that this advice is primarily directed to people who are misfortunate to have to live in towns.TigerNinja wrote: ↑February 14th, 2018, 11:49 am How ironic, the description of this area includes "Just be civil.".
The etymology of civil, like civilisation refers to the Latin civitas. When people are crammed together they have a tendency to behave like dickheads to one another, and so we have had to evolve moral mechanisms which suggest we stfu and keep ourselves to ourselves. Being civilized is learning to bite off that anger.
In overcrowded Japan they have this skill down to a tee and tend to be very closed off "inscrutable".
In the USA where a multitude of cultures, urban and country have been thrust together they have resorted to shooting each other.
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No, the exact opposite. One is a healthy airing of differences, which aught not lead to "offending people". Yet it does. More and more often all the time. This is in part because of the capitulation of right and wrong, in favor of the confusion of "everyone has merit (as a human)" to "everyone's opinion has merit".Karpel Tunnel wrote: ↑June 19th, 2018, 1:31 pmTwo possible approaches are described: 1) one is espousing ideas that run counter the other person's ideas which imply that their worldview is wrong and 2) one where there is name calling and insults.Lucky R wrote:
There is a big difference between espousing ideas that run counter to other'st and thereby imply (yet not explicitly state) that their worldview is wrong on the one hand and resorting to infantile name-calling and insults on the other.
You wrote, it seemed to me, as if in both cases there is an insult, but in the first case it is implied.
IOW if you challenge someone's worldview it is an insult.
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