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So, can I reply to the person who had asked me about my interest in metaphysics as a private response,mas it was sent to me as a private email. Do enable this.
In addition, I had referred a post to you as offensive, I still see that appearing, by when do you think you would be able to remove that post. Thanks in advance.
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So Scott, I am writing below just an introduction of the whole paper. The paper is written by Rohollah Mosallahnezhad as per the paper. The paper is titled "cooperative compact algorithms for randomized algorithms". It's introduction is as follows, I would like to have your very very brief view on this intro. It is important that we see this as key step towards a point that I would like to make.
Introduction
"The development of congestion control has synthesized checksums, and current trends suggest that the exploration of scatter/gather I/O will soon emerge. The notion that analysts connect with compilers is usually well received. The notion that biologists collude with 802.11b is usually considered robust. However, simu-lated annealing alone cannot fulfill the need for the construction of 802.11b. Stable algorithms are particularly confirmed when it comes to checksums [9]. Next, the drawback of this type of method, however, is that the World Wide Web can be made collaborative, highly available, and linear-time. It should be noted that Bots is impossible. While similar solutions improve e-commerce, we fulfill this ambition without deploying cache-able theory. Bots, our new framework for the visualization of architecture, is the solution to all of these issues. We view operating systems as following a cycle of four phases: visualization, evaluation, and observation.
Along these same lines, we emphasize that Bots constructs read–write methodologies. Though conventional wisdom states that this quagmire is usually addressed by the improvement of interrupts, we believe that a different method is necessary. We emphasize that Bots observes introspective models [1,9]. Combined with the emulation of the Ethernet, such a claim studies an analysis of Boolean logic. In this paper, we propose the following contributions in detail. To begin with, we confirm that despite the fact that randomized algorithms and checksums can collaborate to surmount this grand challenge, hash tables and the memory bus can cooperate to fix this quagmire. We describe an analysis of neural networks (Bots), disproving that online algorithms and randomized algorithms can collude to fulfill this intent. The rest of the paper proceeds as follows."
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Nakul wrote:So Scott, I am writing below just an introduction of the whole paper. The paper is written by Rohollah Mosallahnezhad as per the paper. The paper is titled "cooperative compact algorithms for randomized algorithms". It's introduction is as follows, I would like to have your very very brief view on this intro. It is important that we see this as key step towards a point that I would like to make.
Introduction
"The development of congestion control has synthesized checksums, and current trends suggest that the exploration of scatter/gather I/O will soon emerge. The notion that analysts connect with compilers is usually well received. The notion that biologists collude with 802.11b is usually considered robust. However, simu-lated annealing alone cannot fulfill the need for the construction of 802.11b. Stable algorithms are particularly confirmed when it comes to checksums [9]. Next, the drawback of this type of method, however, is that the World Wide Web can be made collaborative, highly available, and linear-time. It should be noted that Bots is impossible. While similar solutions improve e-commerce, we fulfill this ambition without deploying cache-able theory. Bots, our new framework for the visualization of architecture, is the solution to all of these issues. We view operating systems as following a cycle of four phases: visualization, evaluation, and observation.
Along these same lines, we emphasize that Bots constructs read–write methodologies. Though conventional wisdom states that this quagmire is usually addressed by the improvement of interrupts, we believe that a different method is necessary. We emphasize that Bots observes introspective models [1,9]. Combined with the emulation of the Ethernet, such a claim studies an analysis of Boolean logic. In this paper, we propose the following contributions in detail. To begin with, we confirm that despite the fact that randomized algorithms and checksums can collaborate to surmount this grand challenge, hash tables and the memory bus can cooperate to fix this quagmire. We describe an analysis of neural networks (Bots), disproving that online algorithms and randomized algorithms can collude to fulfill this intent. The rest of the paper proceeds as follows."
It's nonsense. It's literally gibberish. Please don't it post on the forum.
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Exactly, this is my point. The above is a generated by a random phrase generator without any attempt at meaning. The link which I was publishing (which was blocked) was directed to this paper. Such computer generated content, makes us realise that we need to focus on the quality of the content rather than the quantity of content which in the trial member case is 10 or 20 or 100 posts (the number is irrelevant). A well known source with pedigree can also contain (even if just as an example) utterly nonsensical content. I would like to stress that this forum participation be based on quality and not on quantity of responses. The trail member might be absolutely nonsensical or excellent, but to measure them on quantity of responses is not accurate.
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In addition, I apologise for repeated reminder, but I am sure you are working on solving the other 2 remaining issues:
1. How do I reply to the person who has sent me a private message asking ... (read my post above), in the name of civility I wish to reply to him as soon as possible, privately. So please enable me to do so. - thanks once again.

2. I had flagged one of the posts as offensive, I still see the post displayed, do let me know by when would you be able to remove it ... just to re-emphasise that it is the quality of the response that matters not quantity.- Thanks
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By when would my status change from trial member to a whatever is the next stage? Any inputs please
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Nakul wrote:By when would my status change from trial member to a whatever is the next stage? Any inputs please
This question is answered in the forum rules:

http://onlinephilosophyclub.com/forums/ ... p?f=7&t=12

Please review them in their entirety. Thank you :)
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Hi Scott, you are only answering some questions and not in its entirety. Your response was more a process step of getting to 20something approved posts...on topic. What I am asking is a solution directed towards an outcome. In name of civility, how can I respond to a fellow forum member who has asked me a private question, you can enable this. Secondly I had marked a post as / responsive as offensive, but I still see it appearing, kindly have it removed. I know I can never get to 12000+ posts to give more weight to my request.
The next question now is even more significant. This is : if the % of older members is very high in this forum (or related weighed preference logic) and the approval to my posts is from these members, then what is the chance of some/new thought consistently findings it's way into the forum discussions. I am sure you have the background data to realize this. Or is my understanding inaccurate?
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Nakul wrote:Hi Scott, you are only answering some questions and not in its entirety.
Nakul, respectfully, just let all this worry about the trial period go, and keep posting. You're only 3 posts away from 20. Give Scott a break, he provides this service to us for free, and doesn't owe us anything.

Let it go.

Move on.

Keep posting.
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3post away or 20 posts away... We miss the point. Nevertheless I can only point out to certain aspects that will make the forum deeper. Thanks ormond. But why does Scott need to owe anyone anything to do what is right, he certainly does not owe anything to anyone? He is doing a mighty fine job, and I agree.
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I appreciate the kind words.

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I know as a new member the rules--especially the automatically enforced rules--can be frustrating. I'm sorry for that.

A big part of this frustration is that these strict rules are so non-standard on the internet and thus often seemingly strange.

However, it's precisely because this club seeks to be very different from the norm that it takes some time for new members to get adjusted to our unique way of doing things here. If it was more of a free-for-all, members would not get anything here that they cannot get from the comments section on Facebook or a million other places that have more people, more money, and more staff on the back-end to make the software work, and so on and so forth. This is why the tagline at the top of this site is now, "An internet oasis of open discussion without personal attacks".

If you think this unique website is for you, then you are an exceptional person. I'm using the word 'you' but I'm not talking to one person, but rather any and all who find themselves here.

By being exceptional, it's no surprise you might think the rules don't really apply to you, especially the automatically enforced rules on new members (e.g. the block on links).

But the rules aren't designed for the exceptions. They are designed for the 99%. If I had to hand-moderate every link that a new member tries to post, I would have no time left to do anything else at all such as eating, and I would starve to death in a pile of my own feces.

Basically, I'm saying, if you think you're the exceptional kind of person who belongs in this club, then bear with the frustrating policies on new members--and in general even an older members--policies which weed out the other 99% who aren't exceptional. In other words, please bear with the frustrating process of proving you're exceptional.
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"The mind is a wonderful servant but a terrible master."

I believe spiritual freedom (a.k.a. self-discipline) manifests as bravery, confidence, grace, honesty, love, and inner peace.
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Scott wrote:If it was more of a free-for-all, members would not get anything here that they cannot get from the comments section on Facebook or a million other places....
That's it. Scott correctly perceives that there's no point in creating yet another "almost anybody can say almost anything" site. He's not exaggerating when he says "a million other places", that's literally true. And almost all of them are pretty much exactly the same, and they're all pretty much on the long slow slide to oblivion because the signal to noise ratio is just too low.

Would we read a magazine that published any article anybody submitted? Not likely. The net doesn't really change that equation.
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Ormond wrote:
Scott wrote:If it was more of a free-for-all, members would not get anything here that they cannot get from the comments section on Facebook or a million other places....
That's it. Scott correctly perceives that there's no point in creating yet another "almost anybody can say almost anything" site. He's not exaggerating when he says "a million other places", that's literally true. And almost all of them are pretty much exactly the same, and they're all pretty much on the long slow slide to oblivion because the signal to noise ratio is just too low.

Would we read a magazine that published any article anybody submitted? Not likely. The net doesn't really change that equation.
Right, exactly :)
My entire political philosophy summed up in one tweet.

"The mind is a wonderful servant but a terrible master."

I believe spiritual freedom (a.k.a. self-discipline) manifests as bravery, confidence, grace, honesty, love, and inner peace.
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Scott wrote:Right, exactly :)
I'm sorry Scott, but we are going to have to ban you for committing the sin of agreeing with another member, which as you should know by now violates every cherished principle of the forumosphere. We would let you off with a warning, but can find no record of you insulting other members, so it's clear you're here just to make a mess of things. :-)
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I agree that the "trial member" thing being annoying, although I trust that it's in place for good reason. As an outsider here I find such mistrust of outsiders to be unsettling. Most often however I've found online forums to be under-moderated. From his posts Scott seems sensible and fair, so it's a tolerable initiation rite.
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