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I have happily discovered someone else would prefer larger print. I say happily, because it is nice to have agreement. I find larger and darker print much easier to read.

As we age, it is normal to have a harder time reading small print. Most people want to deny their changing reality, or for financial reasons put off getting glasses. And then there a few eye conditions such as macular degeneration and diabetes that cause vision problems and then these people get closed out of social activities, especially those involving vision.

I hate to be a bearer of bad news, but it is common for older people to loose both their vision and hearing, and they can become very lonely as people avoid them, or they avoid social situations because they have these problems. These forums could provide something for all these people that other forums do not. A more easy to read social opportunity. This is as needed as affordable medical care, but generally over looked by the masses who do not have experience with the problems and just don't realize what it is like to need larger and darker print.
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This is something that can be changed on anyone's home computer or browser. You can magnify any web-page from your own browser (try looking under "View" in your browser). You can also increase the default text size. So there is no need to increase the text-size for everyone to accommodate people with visual difficulties.

I have noticed that some people are writing almost all their posts in large print. This is supposed to be used like the bold, italic or underline feature, i.e. not on everything but for emphasis. I am working on a way to make it so that people cannot increase a whole post into large print. I may just eliminate the font-size option all-together.

Update: I have disabled font-size changes.
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I too suffer from depleting vision and was using large text in part out of concern for other peoples' possible vision problems and just because it seemed easier for everyone.

Sorry for the abuse.

By the way, sometimes an entire post needs EMPHASIS.
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p.s. - I just tried the VIEW, LARGEST TEXT SIZE option on my browser and nothing changed.
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If your using mozzila firefox (and have a three button mouse) CTRL+SCROLL enlarges a page.

If your not using firefox, I don't like that at all.
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Post by Eckhart Aurelius Hughes »

You can also use zoom. And in Firefox, I know you can zoom just the text (which only makes text larger). One can also adjust the resolution on their own computer.

One or two posters using the largest text on all their posts really wouldn't help because everyone else's posts would still be at the site's default. Then when they use their own personal computer and browser settings to adjust how big the default is for them, the posters using larger print would have super large print that is probably so large it is hard to read.

The larger print feature is not about the size the text actually appears to others, but how big the text is in relation to other text. This is just to add emphasis, but this can be done with bold or italic print.
Gearge wrote:If your not using firefox, I don't like that at all.
I also greatly recommend Firefox. It also has a built in automatic spell checker, which is especially useful. And if your computer crashes, it sometimes auto saves half-written posts that you were making in text boxes.
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Hey Scott, I just discovered the zoom (ctrl + and -). That works. Thanks.
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Yeap, I finally figured out how to work the zoom. Thank you Scott. Now you can put your enlarge feature back, because we now understand why you don't want us using it all the time, and what we can do make things easier to read on our computers.

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Post by Eckhart Aurelius Hughes »

I definitely apologize if I offended anyone by making changes without asking for feedback first or if I offended anyone with vision problems. I removed the larger print feature to protect people who have vision problems and who may need to increase the default font-size or page-size. If they were to increase the default text size and a handful of posts had larger print, then that larger print would become super-large and hard to read. With various post written in all different font-sizes, no matter what zoom-level or other browser settings they have, some posts would be hard to read; either one set would be too small or the other set would be too large.

Since bold and italic can be used for emphasis, I do not think we need the large print feature. At best, it's redundant.

I am thinking about slightly increasing the size of text in posts in relation to the rest of the site. Perhaps I can try it out and then I can have you all tell me whether you prefer it as it is now or with a slight increase. What do you think? I think it will be better with a slight increase, but it is hard to say because of course the website appears differently on different computers and we all have our own preferences.

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Post by athena »

Scott, you could just make people aware of the View function with an explanation of wanting to be vision impaired friendly. I love this function, now that I learned how to use it. I have bifocals, and was fighting with them, because neither looking through the top nor the bottom was ideal. With the larger print, I no longer have this fight and I am very happy about that.

I also wonder what would have happened if the king of England had been as nice as you are. Perhaps the rebels in the New World colonies would not have rebelled if the king had been so considerate? Wouldn't it be fun to redo history like a computer game?
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I agree! large print!
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