Stop the stupid software interfering with what I write.
-
- Posts: 177
- Joined: March 24th, 2012, 7:39 am
Stop the stupid software interfering with what I write.
Scott: people continually complain to you about the way your clunky software interferes with what we want to write.
If I nest a quote it's because that's how I want to express my point. I think carefully about what I write, and I find it outrageous that my words should be altered by a dumb machine for no good reason.
Your poorly-thought-out software doesn't know how to write good philosophy, and I'm not convinced you do either.
- Eckhart Aurelius Hughes
- The admin formerly known as Scott
- Posts: 5786
- Joined: January 20th, 2007, 6:24 pm
- Favorite Philosopher: Eckhart Aurelius Hughes
- Contact:
Re: Stop the stupid software interfering with what I write.
1. You think I'm brainless, poor at philosophy, overall bad at forum administration and a terrible computer coder. To that, I guess I have to say thank you for your criticism and I will try to take it constructively.
2. You do not want nested quotes to be removed. You think my software shall not remove nested quotes from posts like this because in posts like that is a style choice having to do with writing philosophy, not an automatically correctable formatting issue that has little to nothing to do with philosophy. I will take your request into consideration, but at this time it conflicts with this previous request by another member. If I find the time to write the code needed to deal with these heavily nested quotes and determine that it wouldn't be a waste of resources (since it will be run on every result on the search page just to display the first couple sentences of the post), then I may re-enable nested quotes to a certain depth, but certainly not as much as before.
***
In the meantime, while carefully thinking about what you write you can write quotes linearly rather than nested such as:
Mary wrote:Hi, I'm Mary.
Joe wrote:Hi Mary! I'm Joe.
Mary wrote:How are you today, Joe?
I'm not sure how the quotes displaying like that as opposed to in a nested fashion has anything to do with expressing philosophy, especially since it has more to do with how the bbCode is structured than how it displays since the display is handled via a conversion of the bbcode into html using a template and CSS which can be overridden by different devices stylesheets. For instance, someone's personal browser/stylesheet could hide nested HTML quotes all-together anyway regardless of how carefully you determine that is how you want to display them. An important principle in good web coding is understanding the difference between structure and display style, no?Joe wrote:I'm good. Thanks for asking, Mary.
"The mind is a wonderful servant but a terrible master."
I believe spiritual freedom (a.k.a. self-discipline) manifests as bravery, confidence, grace, honesty, love, and inner peace.
- TeenPhilosopher
- Posts: 210
- Joined: September 7th, 2012, 9:26 pm
- Favorite Philosopher: Friedrich Nietzsche
- Location: United States of America
- Contact:
Re: Stop the stupid software interfering with what I write.
-- The hardest tear to shed is always the first, solely for the reason that accepting sorrow is often more sorrowful than the sorrow itself -- Moi
-
- Posts: 177
- Joined: March 24th, 2012, 7:39 am
Re: Stop the stupid software interfering with what I write.
I think you run the site in a brainless way: by which I mean you allow the software (brainless) to dictate to me (big brain, MENSA-level IQ, professional writer, etc etc).Scott wrote:
1. You think I'm brainless,
Poor at instructing others how to write philosophy.poor at philosophy,
Yes. You persist in reinventing the wheel, but your wheels come out square. You persist in trying to use software to correct linguistic usage, something it can't manage.overall bad at forum administration
You might be a good coder for all I know, the problem isn't the code, it's the way it's used.and a terrible computer coder.
Just get off your lame hobby-horse and do it the way all the other philosophy and similar forums do it.2. You do not want nested quotes to be removed. You think my software shall not remove nested quotes from posts like this because in posts like that is a style choice having to do with writing philosophy, not an automatically correctable formatting issue that has little to nothing to do with philosophy. I will take your request into consideration, but at this time it conflicts with this previous request by another member. If I find the time to write the code needed to deal with these heavily nested quotes and determine that it wouldn't be a waste of resources (since it will be run on every result on the search page just to display the first couple sentences of the post), then I may re-enable nested quotes to a certain depth, but certainly not as much as before.
- TeenPhilosopher
- Posts: 210
- Joined: September 7th, 2012, 9:26 pm
- Favorite Philosopher: Friedrich Nietzsche
- Location: United States of America
- Contact:
Re: Stop the stupid software interfering with what I write.
-- The hardest tear to shed is always the first, solely for the reason that accepting sorrow is often more sorrowful than the sorrow itself -- Moi
-
- Premium Member
- Posts: 13871
- Joined: July 10th, 2008, 7:02 pm
- Location: UK
Re: Stop the stupid software interfering with what I write.
.
While I endorse the quote nesting rule and Scott's suggested improvement for a quoting format, I object to the Bowdlerisation of Anglo Saxon words which have to do with excretion of bodily waste. True, many people are offended by Anglo Saxon words for sex as well as for excretions and body parts. However this serious but democratic philosophy forum would have more social weight if the software catered more for aspiring academics and less for little old ladies.You persist in trying to use software to correct linguistic usage, something it can't manage.
- TeenPhilosopher
- Posts: 210
- Joined: September 7th, 2012, 9:26 pm
- Favorite Philosopher: Friedrich Nietzsche
- Location: United States of America
- Contact:
Re: Stop the stupid software interfering with what I write.
While that is true, Belinda, if you are going to do serious philosophy... Why do you need to use those words? I might say that b u l l s h * t would be appropriate at very specific times, but even then it would most likely be used in an offensive matter. I don't mind swear words, but I see no need for them on a philosophy forum.Belinda wrote:Martian Visitor wrote:
.
(Nested quote removed.)
While I endorse the quote nesting rule and Scott's suggested improvement for a quoting format, I object to the Bowdlerisation of Anglo Saxon words which have to do with excretion of bodily waste. True, many people are offended by Anglo Saxon words for sex as well as for excretions and body parts. However this serious but democratic philosophy forum would have more social weight if the software catered more for aspiring academics and less for little old ladies.
-- The hardest tear to shed is always the first, solely for the reason that accepting sorrow is often more sorrowful than the sorrow itself -- Moi
- Eckhart Aurelius Hughes
- The admin formerly known as Scott
- Posts: 5786
- Joined: January 20th, 2007, 6:24 pm
- Favorite Philosopher: Eckhart Aurelius Hughes
- Contact:
Re: Stop the stupid software interfering with what I write.
"The mind is a wonderful servant but a terrible master."
I believe spiritual freedom (a.k.a. self-discipline) manifests as bravery, confidence, grace, honesty, love, and inner peace.
- TeenPhilosopher
- Posts: 210
- Joined: September 7th, 2012, 9:26 pm
- Favorite Philosopher: Friedrich Nietzsche
- Location: United States of America
- Contact:
Re: Stop the stupid software interfering with what I write.
1) 3000 posts... Wow, where do you find the time?
2) Still new to the site, thanks for telling me.
-- The hardest tear to shed is always the first, solely for the reason that accepting sorrow is often more sorrowful than the sorrow itself -- Moi
-
- Premium Member
- Posts: 13871
- Joined: July 10th, 2008, 7:02 pm
- Location: UK
Re: Stop the stupid software interfering with what I write.
Teen Philosopher, I have a lifelong love of language, and I feel strongly that philosophy deserves the largest vocabulary available. My sensitivities are probably more Rabelaisian than yours, perhaps because I have experienced quite a lot and therefore have a more forthright writing style in academic surroundings.While that is true, Belinda, if you are going to do serious philosophy... Why do you need to use those words? I might say that b u l l s h * t would be appropriate at very specific times, but even then it would most likely be used in an offensive matter. I don't mind swear words, but I see no need for them on a philosophy forum.
-- Updated Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:45 pm to add the following --
Scott wrote:You can turn off the word censors in the Board Preferences tab of User Control Panel, right?
Thanks Scott. I understand now that sensorship rests with the sender.
-
- Posts: 177
- Joined: March 24th, 2012, 7:39 am
Stop the stupid software interfering with what I write.
The **** software is still preventing me nesting quotes when I want to though.Belinda wrote:
Thanks Scott. I understand now that censorship rests with the sender.
2023/2024 Philosophy Books of the Month
Mark Victor Hansen, Relentless: Wisdom Behind the Incomparable Chicken Soup for the Soul
by Mitzi Perdue
February 2023
Rediscovering the Wisdom of Human Nature: How Civilization Destroys Happiness
by Chet Shupe
March 2023