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Re: Feminist Philosophy Forum

Post by Creekside Muse » March 23rd, 2014, 7:30 pm

Spiral Out: my question was an attempt to elicit the male perspective, which is all but missing in feminist philosophy. My original desire was to have a conversation about feminist philosophy here (I Googled "feminist philosophy forum" and MalkuthSamanera1's post came up); however, in reviewing the posts, I realize that I've strayed off topic, which is whether feminist philosophy should be a separate forum on this site. I understand what a rat's nest it would become if you opened a new forum for every interest. So, I think it's time for me to move on to something more productive--I have plenty of books here at home that I can utilize to explore feminist philosophy on my own, and I have an email encouraging me to post something, now that I'm registered, so I think I'll seek out one of the established forums and do that. Thank you both for sharing your opinions with me--it was an eye-opener.

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Re: Feminist Philosophy Forum

Post by Spiral Out » March 24th, 2014, 7:34 pm

Creekside Muse wrote:…my question was an attempt to elicit the male perspective, which is all but missing in feminist philosophy.
Did you not find my response satisfactory? What specifically were you looking for?
Creekside Muse wrote:My original desire was to have a conversation about feminist philosophy here (I Googled "feminist philosophy forum" and MalkuthSamanera1's post came up); however, in reviewing the posts, I realize that I've strayed off topic, which is whether feminist philosophy should be a separate forum on this site.
I had questioned the need for a separation of feminist concepts. Was that not agreeable enough for a response?

I have been noticing recently that there are many members of this site who simply shut down when their ideas and beliefs are challenged. It seems as though when people want "discussion" they simply mean that they just wish to talk only to like-minded people. It's quite disappointing.

I am hoping that you would not be one of "them".
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Re: Feminist Philosophy Forum

Post by Creekside Muse » March 25th, 2014, 1:27 am

Hmm. I don't think there is a need for a separation of feminist concepts from other philosophies. In fact, I think there are feminist concepts that are very relevant to social and political philosophy--but those concepts tend to rise up out of critical discussion from within the field of feminist philosophy, not from critical discussion within social and political philosophy--at least, not in my experience. But I don't know enough about feminist concepts to introduce them into social and political philosophy forums, at least not yet. So, I think I just need to hit the books. Out of my curiosity, I'm sure to run across aspects of feminist philosophy that are relevant to some of the ongoing debates in those other forums and when I do I'll share them. For now, however, if I run into feminist concepts that I'd like to explore with someone else, I'm not sure where to turn to do that. Because my primary interest for some time now has been social contract theory and John Rawls' theories about the original position, I was interested in your perspective on any imbalances in our social structures that favor women. The male perspective on feminist philosophy is sure to be a perspective that is overlooked by feminists. I would like to explore how feminist concepts might change the structure of the original position, but because of the very nature of what Rawls' was trying to do, it only seems fair to consider unfair advantages from the male perspective as well. Rawls claims that we don't know whether we're male or female going into the original position, but I believe his conclusions about the decisions that would be made in the original position fail to account for the effect of patriarchal constructs. And this is most likely because Rawls did not have, at the time he wrote, the insights of criticisms now being generated in feminist philosophy. The problem for me is that the only way to understand these insights is to study feminist philosophy specifically--the insights I've noticed in feminist philosophy aren't currently being generated by social and political philosophers. Here's my dilemma: if I were interested in anarchism, I would intuitively navigate to a political philosophy forum--it just seems like anarchism is a type of political philosophy. What philosophy is feminist philosophy a "type" of? Where on this site do people go to discuss feminist philosophy?

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Re: Feminist Philosophy Forum

Post by Spiral Out » March 25th, 2014, 5:48 am

Creekside Muse,

Did you take offense to any of the points and/or questions I had brought up in my more lengthy post? If you did, would you mind discussing those reasons?

You have presented your question as if the masculine view is the default philosophical position in regard to any and all concepts being discussed, no matter the category. Do you indeed feel this way?

Wouldn't it be sufficient to create topics relative to the feminist position within the established categories? I think the primary category for addressing feminist views would be the Philosophy of Politics forum. Feminism is primary a social issue and political theories generally address the social aspect.

Also, I would be very interested in discussing your question of the male perspective in considering what unfair advantages women have within modern society. I think you should create a topic addressing this question.
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Re: Feminist Philosophy Forum

Post by Creekside Muse » March 25th, 2014, 10:46 am

Spiral Out wrote: "Do you think that feminist perspectives can only be achieved within a forum that possesses such a label?"

Yes, I do. The feminist perspective isn't something that is automatically acquired by virtue of the fact that a person is anatomically female. The fact that I'm a woman does not automatically arm me with feminist criticisms of political philosophy. Those criticisms are developed into feminist perspectives by isolating, criticizing, and debating feminist issues--not just political issues.

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