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Discuss On The Internet (Thinking in Action)

Post Number:#1  Postby Scott » November 3rd, 2012, 10:43 pm

Please use this topic to discuss the November book of the month, On the Internet (Thinking in Action) by Hubert L. Dreyfus.
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Post Number:#2  Postby Maciek » November 9th, 2012, 5:22 pm

I doubt I will read the book in nearby future (it either hasn't been translated into my language yet, because it is too fresh, or it is hard to get for somebody who doesn't own credit card). But the title is promising.

Well, after "memes" and "temes" we are experiencing period of "emes" - people get naked (sometimes literally) and begin to share their emotions via internet, believing others will respond and understand them or even replace the real people. I wonder if this Dreyfus guy noticed this.
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Post Number:#3  Postby Quotidian » November 10th, 2012, 1:24 am

I am meaning to get to it, but can say upfront that I like what I know about Dreyfuss. I have read a few essays of his, especially in regards to his critique of aritificial intelligence, and also viewed a video interview of his about Heidegger. I will try and get the book out of my uni library.
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Post Number:#4  Postby T-RAY » December 11th, 2012, 12:07 pm

How good is this book?
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Post Number:#5  Postby EMTe » December 11th, 2012, 7:31 pm

Well, if he follows (being a rather old man) this trope (and it is possible, because description says vaguely something about "studies of the isolation experienced by many internet users") than the book is of no good and he doesn't know what he talks about. If people experience isolation or other negative feelings and share them with others while using internet it is because they were already dysfunctional when they begun using it. Emotions are in your body, not in "internet".
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Post Number:#6  Postby Gamnot » July 31st, 2013, 3:50 pm

I have read most of the book so far. His idea of disembodiment is especially relevant when it comes to internet and twitter romance. Internet and twitter sex is a sad and goofy way to live. The only good thing you can say about it is that you are not likely to get germs. The allo-centric senses are at-a-distance senses; seeing and hearing. It certainly is sad when people have to truncate their auto-centric senses; the close-up senses and this is an ersatz way of living in an inferior substitute way of disembodiment.

-- Updated August 6th, 2013, 7:51 pm to add the following --

"On the Internet" by Herbert L. Dreyfus: I just read all of chapter four in this book. I had previously read Kierkegaard's Philosophy, the philosophy of Martin Heidegger, as well as Gabriel Marcel and others. Chapter four gave me the enlightening experience of bringing the basic concepts from those philosophers together for me. ........ Chapter four -- Nihilism on the information highway; Anonymity vs. Commitment In the present age. ............ Kierkegaard's three life stages; The Esthetic - People who are always in quest of the interesting and in flight from the boring eventually find everything boring and are in despair. ........... The Ethical - People who are automatous and live in absolute freedom to make and unmake commitments do not have a firm identity and are for that reason in despair. ........... The Religious or unconditional commitment stage --- People with a firm identity but who are risking everything on their commitment that could crash.
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Post Number:#7  Postby EMTe » August 23rd, 2013, 10:53 am

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