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Hello friends, thinkers, fellow daydreamers and professional worriers,

I'm going to be straight up with you guys, finding this forum is freaking awesome! The subject of this topic is a fact. I have grown absolutely sick and tired of having normal conversations, with normal people, about the normal things that are going on in their lives. I'm all for listening to how your day went, but at some point my brain craves some stimulation; a conversation where I can sink my metaphysical teeth into something intellectually juicy, and engage the depth of human rationality. I don't know if I'm just quibbling over nothing or if you guys share my feelings of contempt but, what I love more than anything is getting into a hot debate or cordial conversation where I leave feeling like I've just shared a beautiful experience with another human--a conversation in which we dove deep into the wonders of life, logic, faith, science, philosophy and ultimately our personal beliefs about the whole shabang. I truly hope that I can come here as a getaway from the monotony of everyday life and normal people, and get into some really strange conversations on topics ranging from quantum physics to artificial intelligence and consciousness.

I have a background and degrees in Psychology and Philosophy and my highest interests are in phenomenology, philosophy of mind, cognitive psychology, aaaand human behavior. I'm a firm believer in Jesus Christ, so obviously conversations about God, theology, and metaphysics don't scare me. In fact I WELCOME ALL CHALLENGERS!!! PLEEAAAASE push me to the very brink of human logic and argumentation so I can sharpen my skills and be able to better defend my faith/belief system. Point out the holes in my arguments. I'd love that honestly.

Thanks for sharing this time with me. I'm looking forward to having riveting, thought provoking, and brutally open conversations with every single one of you. The beginning of discovery starts with sharing, so I hope you all will share your personal stories and interests with me as well.

All the best homies.

LKA.

Is there an apologetics of apologetics, that is, a defense of the felt need to defend your faith?

The whole a/theist debate is becoming rather dull and repetitive, running through the same ineffectual loops.

What would be more interesting is for other theists to challenge your version of the faith. We already know the atheist view and it hardly need reiteration - that the events claimed in ancient Middle Eastern mythology are as fantastical and unlikely as the claims of mythologies of other places and times.

In the battle between rival faiths in this play of metaphysical survival of the fittest why would the Middle Eastern Jewish version be considered superior to other mythologies? Aside from the Islamic golden age around a thousand years ago, it's not as though Middle Easterners have proven themselves to be the most reliable observers and reporters of things. Perhaps the Chinese, Indian or Japanese descriptions of reality might be more reliable? Or perhaps the modern perspective, with the benefit of so much more experience and exploration, is the most reliable?

Are you familiar with the Christian existentialists line of thinking? I am very well familiar with Kierkegaard, Berdyeav, Gabriel Marcel and others.

LKATheApologist1 wrote:I'm looking forward to having riveting, thought provoking, and brutally open conversations with every single one of you.

When are you going to start and who are you going to start with? Will you be doing us in alphabetical order?

Greta wrote: ↑March 31st, 2018, 7:10 pm The whole a/theist debate is becoming rather dull and repetitive, running through the same ineffectual loops.

Hungarian saying: There is no new joke under the sun. But to a newborn every joke is new. There are no old jokes; only old people.

In a way I comptletely agree with you: for me, too, the charm and rejuvenating joy and refreshing mind-culture is getting stale in bashing religion-heads and their impossible ideas that religions plant irremovable in their minds. If I get tired of doing that, which I am wont of more and more often, I reach out and make some funny posts to entertain myself.

Meaning, that to a newbie on the forums religion-bashing or atheist-confounding is just as exciting as it were to you and me sixty years ago.

So go on, young braves, fresh out of the grade school of hard knocks, and do it in highschool what we got tired of doing on the post-doctoral level.

-1- wrote: ↑June 27th, 2018, 9:36 am

Greta wrote: ↑March 31st, 2018, 7:10 pm The whole a/theist debate is becoming rather dull and repetitive, running through the same ineffectual loops.

Hungarian saying: There is no new joke under the sun. But to a newborn every joke is new. There are no old jokes; only old people.

In a way I comptletely agree with you: for me, too, the charm and rejuvenating joy and refreshing mind-culture is getting stale in bashing religion-heads and their impossible ideas that religions plant irremovable in their minds. If I get tired of doing that, which I am wont of more and more often, I reach out and make some funny posts to entertain myself.

Yes. The battle lines are set and all that remains is for players to slot in and play their expected roles.

Greta wrote: ↑June 27th, 2018, 6:49 pm

-1- wrote: ↑June 27th, 2018, 9:36 am

Hungarian saying: There is no new joke under the sun. But to a newborn every joke is new. There are no old jokes; only old people.

In a way I comptletely agree with you: for me, too, the charm and rejuvenating joy and refreshing mind-culture is getting stale in bashing religion-heads and their impossible ideas that religions plant irremovable in their minds. If I get tired of doing that, which I am wont of more and more often, I reach out and make some funny posts to entertain myself.

Yes. The battle lines are set and all that remains is for players to slot in and play their expected roles.

Rejoyce, glory is ours; our young men have not died in vain. Their graves need no flowers; the tapes have recorded their names.

-1- wrote: ↑June 29th, 2018, 1:59 pm

Greta wrote: ↑June 27th, 2018, 6:49 pm
Yes. The battle lines are set and all that remains is for players to slot in and play their expected roles.

Rejoyce, glory is ours; our young men have not died in vain. Their graves need no flowers; the tapes have recorded their names.

While the past recedes ever more rapidly in this age of froth and bubble, the germs remain within the machine, to be renewed in more felicitous times.

Greta wrote: ↑June 29th, 2018, 7:19 pm

-1- wrote: ↑June 29th, 2018, 1:59 pm

Rejoyce, glory is ours; our young men have not died in vain. Their graves need no flowers; the tapes have recorded their names.

While the past recedes ever more rapidly in this age of froth and bubble, the germs remain within the machine, to be renewed in more felicitous times.

Every plane is shot, the arrows fly... were the victims of our wars gone down? Shield your body in the arrows' range... let there be no sorrow, feel no pain.

Hey -1-, you have a really fricking cool image! Just liked to say that while we aren't in the argument forum crap

Fooloso4 wrote: ↑March 31st, 2018, 11:26 am Is there an apologetics of apologetics, that is, a defense of the felt need to defend your faith?

First, I am so sorry for this late response I totally forgot I made one of these smh. But I guess the apologetics to the apologetics is that based out of love of God and people. Sometimes you feel the need to present positive arguments against the attacks. Ultimately because one believes in heaven and hell and wants all to choose the former and well to choose Jesus.

Sy Borg wrote: ↑March 31st, 2018, 7:10 pm The whole a/theist debate is becoming rather dull and repetitive, running through the same ineffectual loops.

What would be more interesting is for other theists to challenge your version of the faith. We already know the atheist view and it hardly need reiteration - that the events claimed in ancient Middle Eastern mythology are as fantastical and unlikely as the claims of mythologies of other places and times.

In the battle between rival faiths in this play of metaphysical survival of the fittest why would the Middle Eastern Jewish version be considered superior to other mythologies? Aside from the Islamic golden age around a thousand years ago, it's not as though Middle Easterners have proven themselves to be the most reliable observers and reporters of things. Perhaps the Chinese, Indian or Japanese descriptions of reality might be more reliable? Or perhaps the modern perspective, with the benefit of so much more experience and exploration, is the most reliable?

Sorry for the late reply my friend…you’re so right though, it does become repetitive input output type of conversations between atheist and theist, but every now and then the conversations can be worth the while.

I was agree debates and discussion between theists ought to happen more often. Interestingly enough the debates should incorporate the whole corpus of information available, history, literature, socio-politico-economic effects, culture, but ultimately the conversation will land in the spirit. Theists believe in the spirit realm and their experience of it and make statements and claims concerning it and God. So that’s where things can get very interesting to compare spiritual truths to spiritual truths. For me all debate in this realm revolves around John 3:16 if the New Testament. What do you think?

Gamnot wrote: ↑June 21st, 2018, 6:06 pm Are you familiar with the Christian existentialists line of thinking? I am very well familiar with Kierkegaard, Berdyeav, Gabriel Marcel and others.

Forgive me for the very late response! But woah I didn’t know Kierkegaard was a Christian wow that’s awesome! Do you know what denomination or doctrinal beliefs? As far as the others I have heard of them except maybe Marcel…

Sy Borg wrote: ↑June 27th, 2018, 6:49 pm

-1- wrote: ↑June 27th, 2018, 9:36 am

Greta wrote: ↑March 31st, 2018, 7:10 pm The whole a/theist debate is becoming rather dull and repetitive, running through the same ineffectual loops.

Hungarian saying: There is no new joke under the sun. But to a newborn every joke is new. There are no old jokes; only old people.

In a way I comptletely agree with you: for me, too, the charm and rejuvenating joy and refreshing mind-culture is getting stale in bashing religion-heads and their impossible ideas that religions plant irremovable in their minds. If I get tired of doing that, which I am wont of more and more often, I reach out and make some funny posts to entertain myself.

Yes. The battle lines are set and all that remains is for players to slot in and play their expected roles.

Hey sorry for the late reply! Haha wow I can tell you’re really smart and I totally agree with you! I’ve tried my best to not fall prey to that, and I did when I was a younger on fire hotshot for Jesus Christ. But now my fire has grown maturely and it’s all a matter of sincerity in conversation. It’s not about the religious conversation but getting to the brass tax, is Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior. Do you believe in His message about eternal salvation? Do you want to know Him and His love for you and plan for the latter years of your life? Of course no means no, but if I write and speak and something strikes the heart/soul/spirit well then I say a friendly and even juicy conversation can certainly be had lol it’s not about knock down arguments but about The Truth! Hopefully that makes sense? Best!