Killing someone to save your own life
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Killing someone to save your own life
For example, if I would die unless I got a heart transplant, would it be immoral to kill someone for their heart?
It seems like it wouldn't, but isn't it basically the same thing as defense?
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It seems like it wouldn't be immoral to kill an innocent person so you can selfishly take their heart from them?? Wow. I find it hard to believe that anyone can think like that.For example, if I would die unless I got a heart transplant, would it be immoral to kill someone for their heart?
It seems like it wouldn't, but isn't it basically the same thing as defense?
In no way, shape, or form does this seem like the same thing as defense. Defense implies that you are at risk of harm due to actions taken against you by another person (or in some cases, albeit not this one, at risk due to the lack of action taken by another). That's not what's happening here.
So in my opinion, yes it would be very wrong to kill someone to save your own life, at least in the example given.
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I guess a murder could take place, an organ harvested, but that would happen under certain conditions that were an episode of CSI. That would be morally wrong.
I guess the question to ask is: With the shortage of organs, would it be ethical for hospitals to undertreat patients who present in the er as potential organ donors?
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killing to save one's life
In the absence of ethics, it may be possible to argue that not doing anything necessary to save one's own life (including and maybe especially taking someone else's life) would be the ultimate waste of existence, for ceasing to exist (or not prolonging this existence as long as possible before the next ETERNAL one) may have to come at some point, but there would be no reason not to prolong it as much as possible.
However, seein as how this is a forum topic on ethics, I will take the liberty to state that taking someone else's life is the most immoral action possible, for ending someone else's existence prevents them from any 'good' deeds, no matter how you may define 'good', as well as takes the most basic thing away from them: life.
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It depends on the factors of the situation.Is it immoral to kill someone to save your own life?
The question sounds simple enough, but the answer is almost impossible to simplify. You must take into account an almost infinite amount of considerations. Under which ethical system are you considering this situation? Does the other person wish to donate his heart? Is he even alive, or capable (sane) enough to decide? Who decides if he isn't considered capable of choosing for himself? What if he is in a vegetative state? These and many other questions need to be answered, before the morality of the situation can be defined.For example, if I would die unless I got a heart transplant, would it be immoral to kill someone for their heart?
It seems like it wouldn't, but isn't it basically the same thing as defense?
No, it isn't basically the same thing as defense, unless the other person (the would-be donor) is in some way attacking you (did he cause you the heart damage?). So, by my ethical standards, it would be immoral if the donor doesn't in some way or another deserve to be killed. simple as that.
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I see you're defnitely rocking Kant's deontological system of ethics to make your decision (as if it wasn't obvious you're a fan of Kant through your name here on the forums) Kant's system has always been one of my favorites in terms of ethics. Too bad I abhor the process of reading just about anything he's written. His writing style drives me nuts.I could not will it that every person, or any person for that matter would kill to spare thier own life so I could not justify doing it myself.
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Re: Killing someone to save your own life
No it isn't. Defense occurs when a person attackscooltodd109 wrote:Is it immoral to kill someone to save your own life?
For example, if I would die unless I got a heart transplant, would it be immoral to kill someone for their heart?
It seems like it wouldn't, but isn't it basically the same thing as defense?
someone who is trying to inflict harm on an innocent
individual through a heinous act such as murder
or rape. Self-defense is an attempt to protect
one's own rights or possessions. Of course,
there are arguments made
by people as to whether self-defense is a moral or
immoral act. It may not fit in the category
of moral behavior, but most people would not
consider self-defense to be an immoral act, even
if they do not believe in it themselves.
However, to kill someone in order to give someone
else a heart transplant is not an act of defense.
It is robbing an innocent being of his/her rights
so that someone else may live. Think of it this
way; if you had two young children, and one gets
sick and has to have a heart transplant in order to live, would you consent to the killing of your
other child so that the sick one may live?
Of course, there are different situations at play here. What if someone consented to the idea of
donating a heart to a sick person? If an eighty
year old man wanted to donate his heart to a young boy who had a little while to live, would
this act be unethical? It's a hard question to
answer. Of course, if a person does not consent
to his demise, then the act would be unethical.
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Can't disagree with you there.captain_crunk wrote:It seems like it wouldn't be immoral to kill an innocent person so you can selfishly take their heart from them?? Wow. I find it hard to believe that anyone can think like that.For example, if I would die unless I got a heart transplant, would it be immoral to kill someone for their heart?
It seems like it wouldn't, but isn't it basically the same thing as defense?
In no way, shape, or form does this seem like the same thing as defense. Defense implies that you are at risk of harm due to actions taken against you by another person (or in some cases, albeit not this one, at risk due to the lack of action taken by another). That's not what's happening here.
So in my opinion, yes it would be very wrong to kill someone to save your own life, at least in the example given.
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All killing isn't murder.Hacashu wrote:Killing is killing no matter how you look at it. Even if it is in "self defense" or in the case of a heart transplant. One person is deciding weather another has the right to live or not. That Idea would start going into free will. If anyone can take the life of another even in the case of self defense, than the person that was killed did not decide when he/she was going to die. The person that killed them did, because when it comes down to it, in any situation we have a choice to make about self defense. That would also put the person who claimed self defense as a "god" like figure, because he /she was deciding the fate of someone else. If in the case of an organ transplant, if the hospital had an organ, than you might recieve it and live, and if not than you should accept the fact that you are going to die and move on with everything else in your mind.
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