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Bk2Kant wrote:If God proved he existed he would take away the meaning of faith. If people did not have faith thier love for and/or obedience of God would be similar to our obedience of government a way to kep us in ine because we fear inevitable punishment should we do wrong. If we believe in God based on faith it is a diferent relationship and we could agree with the Christian idea that you have to take the lead of faith and trust in God fully to be forgiven for the flaws he has given you. I think you're devotion to God gets discredited if the existance of Gos were common knowledge.
calenture9 wrote:It could be possible that God exists, but doesn't necessarily care about people that much to prove himself (or herself, itself, etc.).
I, personally, am agnostic leaning toward the atheistic side. But, if God does exist, then I think that God must just not care about us - it just created the basic building blocks of the universe and let it do the work.
captain_crunk wrote:I don't know why God should (if there is one, and personally I think there is) feel he has to prove anything to us. If there is a God and he made us, I can't imagine what would make him feel like he had anything to prove. Unless there's a God who, in essence, hasn't done anything at all. Damn I'm running in circles here. Sorry all, I know what I mean to say but I don't know how to say it. Just ignore this whole post if you'd like...
And please note that when I refer to God as a "he" I'm not being a misogynistic, sexist pig or anything. The Bible just refers to God as "father" and fathers usually aren't called "she." Sorry if this offends anyone.
captain_crunk wrote:MyshiningOne wrote:I am a woman and I'm not offended. Gender correctness
is still hard to achieve.
Alright good. Thanks for not being hypersensitive about things =)
thestateimin wrote:The only issue I have with this is that any ultimate and all knowing beings such as the Abrahamic God (or any other for that matter) would have to understand that their "word" is quite ambiguous. Each religion seems to have it's own sects and sub-sects simply because of human interpretation.
This interpretation of "holy" books has led millions to murder and be murdered (think Sunnis, Shi'ites, Catholics, Protestants, Therevada Buddhists, Hindus etc.). If a God were truly compassionate (like so many religions claim), one would imagine that he/she/it would care for it's creations. If God were compassionate, he/she/it would probably not allow these transgressions to occur in his/her/it's name. All murder done in the name of God could have been prevented if God came and cleared the air.
Given the following, we may make one of the following assumptions:
1)God is not compassionate
2)God simply created the universe, then abandoned it (Deist God)
3)God does not exist
bellybuttonmonkeypoo wrote:If god did that there would be no free choice at all. Also it don't matter if others believe or not in the end it's your faith that proves the existance to you
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