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Homicidal Pacifist

Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 546 Location: Your mom's house. Ha.
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Post: #1 Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:02 am Post subject: Tranquilizer Guns For Everyone |
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I watched a report on CNN about a 15 year-old-girl who was gang-raped for 2 and a half hours by like 10 people in an alley outside of a highschool dance.
Calling the police takes way too much time for a resolution. A bystander stepping in is quicker. And the girl being armed is even better.
Introducing... The TranQ Gun. Twenty fast-acting tranquilizer darts per gun allows a young girl to be just as powerful as a full-grown man - pending she knows howe to use the weapon - which would not only be a deterrent to potential rapists, but would also aid in defending an actual attack, subdue the offender for punishment by law, and do so without the risk of death or serious injury to anyone - which I think is a reason that most women don't carry real guns.
Also, if you're about to face some kind imminent threat or serious pain that cannot be avoided or defeated, you can shoot yourself and sleep through the trauma.
Arm everyone with tranquilizer guns and significantly cut down the use of real guns.
Would there be so much killing in society if instead of guns we all had tranquilzer guns? Remember, if you shoot an attacker in the arm with real gun, he can still come after you, but you shoot him in the arm with a tranquilizer dart and he's down.
If EVERYBODY had a TranQ Gun wouldn't the bad guys be more hesitant to attack? Or would good the good guys go bad on account of the new weapon?
I will grant that it might make abductions easier given the immediateness and quietness of a TranQ Gun's applicability. Perhaps it might be designed to make a loud noise when being fired. And at least the victims would have a serious method for defending themselves.
Bystanders, even grandma, would be capable and effective, and therefore more likely, to lend a hand to a victim during an attack.
It gets messy when you add children to the equation. Arm them and reduce instances of pedophilia as well capturing wouid-be molestors, but are kids ever gonna be ready for the responsibility of possessing weapons? not to mention what it might do to their psyches to be so on guard. But it's a dangerous world and that's a lesson worth learning, even aan especially at a young age. I figure with strong education and intense punishments it might be worth considering and trying on a small scale at first. It may actually teach them responsibility and respect.
I'm talking about outlawing guns entirely (including the police), but add to this topic however you want to.
Rather than a crappy stimulous program, should the president instead issue a TranQ Gun to all citizens (maybe not the rapists, etc.)?
Let's assume that the TranQ Guns are as or more effective than real guns but just non-lethal.
Should the people have to trade in their real guns?
Convert gun stores and manufacturers into TranQ Gun form to avoid job loss and economic failure?
There can be many various kinds of TranQ Guns.
I do believe that we should have the right to bare arms, but I do not believe that we should be allowed to employ lethal tactics as a means of self-defense, especially since we can defend ourselves just as adequately without killing people. _________________ "If Ignorance Is Bliss, Then Knock The Smile Off My Face!"
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Nothingman

Joined: 03 Sep 2009 Posts: 104
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Post: #2 Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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All I can see are people getting drunk and tranquilizing each other. Now if someone gets shot in the eye with one of those, I don't think they are keeping that eye. Or I don't even want to think of getting shot somewhere else(if you know what I mean). I mean, the respect isn't there(to use it)like it is with a real gun.
But a non-lethal, effective device should always be carried by a girl or women and the parents should teach them precisely how to use it. They should practice taking it out and firing it on a regular schedule. Like the military does with training so it becomes automatic. All this is a very sad reality though.
Secondly, I don't believe in gun control for lawabiding citizens. The number one reason for this...Drum role please...
Revolution. If in the future the gov. becomes too controlling(which I think it is well on it's way), the people will need tools to take it out. Taking away guns leaves the people severely helpless against Big Bro.
As for the gang rape, how can that many guys just up and loose empathy like that all at the same time? I don't think it is likely that they all just don't feel empathy ever, do you? I mean, how is it mentally possible?
That said, if I was there with a gun I'd probably blow all those guy's knee caps out. Give them something to remember every time they see their legs or feel pain in them for the rest of their lives.
I think the J man once said, "Hate the action, not the enemy" or "love the enemy", or someone said something like that I think. That's kinda hard when the emotion hits, thinking of that girl in terror and pain. _________________ "Maybe, might be the only philosophical sanity"
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Juice

Joined: 08 May 2009 Posts: 1966
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Post: #3 Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Go ahead HP bring a tazer to a gun fight.  _________________ When everyone looks to better their own future then the future will be better for everyone.
An explanation of cause is not a justification by reason.
C. S. Lewis
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Homicidal Pacifist

Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 546 Location: Your mom's house. Ha.
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Post: #4 Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:10 am Post subject: . |
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Thanks for the re-plies.
Juice -
I know, right? Goin' a little Sean Connery on me, huh?
But if you recall that scene in The Untouchables, the guy who brought a knife got out alive and won and didn't even have to use the blade. He used intelligence and forethought.
My point was based, at least loosely, on the presumption that the TranQ Gun was equivelent to a real gun in matters of effectiveness.
NothingMan -
You make a good point that people might be more likely to pull a weapon - especially when intoxicated - due to the fact that there victim would not die.
Even if this is the case, it may still be worth a shot.
Every man has fists, but doesn't whip them out as the weapons they are except for on THOSE occasions.
The point being that we are all already armed - to a lesser degree - and people will fight or shoot each other with whatever is in their hand if they really want to (like I did when I stabbed 3 people - bad guys that didn't HAVE to be stabbed) and people like my current self who carry a weapon (non-lethal - pepperspray and a pen), but have chosen to refrain from using said weapons even though it could have been considered reasonable to use them.
Put a can of pepperspray in everyone's hands and the won't all just start spraying each other because they have a new weapon. Remember, they too risk getting shot or sprayed - if not by you then by a passer-by.
But like I said, attach heavy enough punishments ($1,000 fine or more and potential jail time) if misused and hope that they act as sufficient enough deterrents.
For proof of misuse, attach little cameras to the weapon; especially for cases without witnesses.
As in favor of revolution as I am, my revolution is one against killing. Even the bastards.
As for the gang-rape and empathy, people are detached. We grow accustomed to self-interest and many of us find the struggle for selflessness to be too tiring. It is exhausting because it affects nearly all aspects of our daily lives.
We have to help each other to want to help each other even when both parties don't want to help each other.
I would like to add that...
If we were armed with TranQ Guns rather than real guns the concern for accidentally shooting an innocent bystander would decrease significantly due to the fact that that bystander would not die as a result.
This aids in our ability and willingness to take down the assailant.
A human shield, for example, would be of little use to the assailant given that we could just tranquilize the hostage and then have a clear shot.
We could fire multiple shots rather than worrying as much about waiting for the right moment. _________________ "If Ignorance Is Bliss, Then Knock The Smile Off My Face!"
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