Fifth Dimension
- Montgomeryharris
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Fifth Dimension
But like a transgressive act it also "crosses the line", pushing itself outside of the circumference or limit.
But this fifth or arch dimension-outside of meaning- is also the fourth , the inside, the effable "transcendence" that appears as revelation in the soul, core, or nucleus of things.
So that the fifth dimension is a strange kernel or omphalos, inside the fourth-a navel or situation of meaning that goes beyond its own limits, but remains situated in the interior.
The fifth dimension is not a super added, external concept to world and Idea, it is that contra-diction burning invisibly at the heart of things, whose vapors fill our nostrils.
Another name for the fifth dimension then, could be "different form of fourth"- a fourth that is no longer simple, digestible meaning. A fourth that is no longer identical to the rest of itself- an other dimension, an other logic, an other world- inside of this one but only partially graspable;
a fluid, "paradoxical" fourth dimension whose depth and fertility enriches the visible which is not it, but at the same time what it is (veil of ma-ya, "not -that")
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- Therealdjcamm
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Re: Fifth Dimension
I'm probably completely wrong as my understanding appears too simple considering the vast amount of algebra used to define these concepts but hay ho what can you do!
- Hereandnow
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"the effable "transcendence" that appears as revelation in the soul, core, or nucleus of things."
Can you clarify? I mean, yes, history is filled with utterances like this. Just read Evelyn Underhill, or Eckhart Tolle or the medieval Cloud of Unknowing; or try Plotinus' neoPlatonism. But do elaborate. If it is effable, then it bears description, fits into theoretical contexts, etc. In short, what are you talking about?
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- Gorgias
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There is no link with the vague mysticism of Montgomeryharris, but it match with the title, so : have you ever think about modality as a fifth dimension ? (the relation between the set of all possible world and one particular world seems to be the same that the one between the world -as a spatio-temporal continuum- and a static space ; the one between space and plane ; and the one between plane and line).
- Gulnara
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Just tell me that at 5D I will be able to realize, to feel that I, me include all those other me in other Universes, that I am big and spread around multiverses instead of having meager years of life as single Earthlian me. Tell me I will be able to perceive all of my multiple personas at once and not know at all what distance is in time or space, because they'd be nonexistent or insignificant in the 5D. Tell me there is no money there, no ranks, no third of life spent studying ( because there I get all the knowledge at once the day I am born). Tell me I can be extremely creative out there because I eat whole world's new knowledge every day for breakfast. Tell me I can spread some mercy on the Earthlian, separated me, since I will know that Earthlian me has no way of knowing me. Tell me I can play God.
- DxV2
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Think of D4 - 3d objects running along a timeline. Only forward is possible, and D4 can have an end. It's finite. For an example of D5, you would say experience the year 2006 (this is only an example), and you would wake up at the end back on January 1st 2006 none the wiser - your mind effectively wiped so you've forgotten you were about to experience 2007. This "time repetition" (the essence of D5) could happen once or multiple times before for some reason the gate to 2007 was opened, leading back to another 4D experience (of new time). The "mind wipe" idea is important, because that also defines D5, you are experiencing the same time, basically the same D4 period again and again.
Now saying you woke up back on January 1st 2006 without the mind wipe, perhaps even remembering the 31st December 2006 you have just experienced - you are now experiencing time changes - what I view as D6 - because the first time on January 1st 2006 you weren't having that thought. Your actions may even change, rewriting your personal experience of 2006, so again, it's D6 - the 6th dimension - "changes in established time".
It ends there if you experience all this D5 and D6 and eventually become no more. Hence my understanding of D7 - that is basically when you get the lot back after your D5 (and possible D6) experiences. Although I appreciate there are other understandings and theoretical explanations of other dimensions, I do not need more than these seven to understand the cosmos.
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-- Updated Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:13 pm to add the following --
You tied up those dimensions to the dates. Dates are human invention, they are not part of dimensions. If I am going through dimensions you mentioned thta wipe memory, I have no choice but to think the next day I am living is the next in a chain of dates, and not next year's previous day. That could mean that we might be living in those dimensiones, at least sometimes, and not even know it.
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- The Beast
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I shall describe the Fifth Dimension or I shall call it the Faith Dimension. The first of reality in the Space-Time is the beginning; the second came after the first. The spiral out of the first is reality and it is all real in the four quadrants of understanding… and that which is thought is a string; a message of believe travelling the space-time backwards towards its origin. To and through what is two and that which is three… and where we are. Hap on the ride, we are going home. it can only be done in the Fifth Dimension. This which is the origin collapses in our mind as true existence.
Anyway, in string theory dimensions might reach infinity; I might theorize that it contains all possible thoughts/strings as dimensions of reality. “To infinity and beyond”
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- The Beast
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