Do we need a new global religion?

[haribol acharya]

In fact what I feel is today we are, religiously speaking, increasingly becoming fundamentalists, and religious fundamentalism is loosening everywhere.

We know most religious are counterattacking one another and are posing threats. Most religious fundamentalists are kind of indoctrinating small children. Small children are not fortified against their programmings or indoctrinations.

Of course there are words of virtues in religious texts and we have failed to make abundant use of them and of course there are toxic ideas too, and we seem to be focused on the intoxicants of religious texts.

Now I feel that we need a new religion and that will select only virtues from all religious texts. And this will help us to forge peace and order in our world

[tmv]

What you're describing sounds like intelligence as a religion, and that is something that some will just never be able to acquire.

[Simon says...]

I dunno, people have contrasting ideas of what a religion should be...some (I call wise) people say religion is based on not only ethical teachings but general wisdom, building of character and also humility and worshipping of ideas, and in many cases things people believe to be living entities.
Other (I call stupid) people believe that it is the ultimate expression of the truth of reality, the one truth and whole truth that cannot be questioned.

Now the sum of all the first one in terms of religion I think could possibily be blended into one, but it would be pointless as they rarely conflict, all they are their to do is teach, they care not what other's say. But the sum of the second, all are incompatible with each other for they all claim everyone else wrong and them right.

[Nick_A]

We don't need a new religion. We need to re-member the essence of religion that remains covered over within the perennial traditions.
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Man would like to be an egoist and cannot. This is the most striking characteristic of his wretchedness and the source of his greatness." Simone Weil....Gravity and Grace

[ape]

[Belinda]

I think that the old religious doctrines have to die away and the whole world become secular before a new universal religion can rise from the destruction of the old.I'm not advocating revolution , just evolution of ideas. It's already happening.

Ape, I agree with you. However the old religious language and imagery are so imbued with superstitions and revenges and rewards, that they have to be superceded by a new language and a new imagery of spirituality.This does not mean that the poetry of the Qur'an and the Bible should be scrapped, these are among our heritage of beauty , but they should be understood not as beliefs about facts, but as human experiences.

[ape]

[quote="Belinda"]I think that the old religious doctrines have to die away ...
ape: I hear you, Belinda!
The only old doctrine in old religions that has to die away is the old Hatred.
Ezekiel 25:15
Thus saith the Lord GOD: Because the Philistines have dealt by revenge, and have taken vengeance with a despiteful heart, to destroy it for the old hatred;
Ezekiel 35:5
Because thou hast had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed the blood of the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of their calamity, in the time that their iniquity had an end:
Belinda:...and the whole world become secular...
Ape: That secularity is the Spirituality of Love.
Ezekiel 18:31Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Belinda:.. before a new universal religion can rise from the destruction of the old.
Ape: The new universal religion is the same old religion of Love minus the Hatred of words that name men.
1 John 7Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
9He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
10He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
11But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
Belinda:I'm not advocating revolution , just evolution of ideas. It's already happening.
Ape: Yes! We need a R-EVOL-ution & an EVOL-ution-- in thinking!
Belinda: Ape, I agree with you.
Ape: We do agree!
Belinda: However the old religious language and imagery are so imbued with superstitions and revenges and rewards, that they have to be superceded by a new language and a new imagery of spirituality.
Ape: same old language minus the Hate of any words plus the Love of all words.
Belinda: This does not mean that the poetry of the Qur'an and the Bible should be scrapped, these are among our heritage of beauty , but they should be understood not as beliefs about facts, but as human experiences.
Ape: Exactly! Poetry is prose in Love. And vice versa.

[james1951]

I have more of an understanding of the teachings of Christ, so I relate to it. But I think as you have inferred that all spiritual teachers\prophets support the same general idea that Jesus taught.

1. Love truth and rightness above all else.
2. Love others.

Each of the ten commandments is an application of one or both of those 2 commandments.

It is a shame that much of humanity is so dense that they cannot see that if you love others you won't kill steal or commit adultery against them.

The golden rule tells us the Truth of what we should do. We don't need any other voice.

That was what the coming of Jesus represented. That no longer would we obey a set of laws or rules or orders but that we would listen to the spirit of truth and rightness directly and act accordingly.

Those who do so are sheep\wheat. Those who do not are goats\chaff. Their will be atheists among the sheep and theists among the goats. The atheists and theist who love truth shall live in peace and harmony forever and the atheists and theists who do not love others shall fight and rail against each other for ever.

[Belinda]

The new religion is here, now. People of good will everywhere and from every religious tradition trust in humane, merciful, and wise ideas and practises.

The problem that remains is that many people are bogged down in outworn religious rivalries and differences. Another problem is that people who feel threatened by famine or by what they take to be over-weening power- seeking of other groups tend to react by retreating to the old tribal forms of religion that exclude outsiders.

[SpiralsHappen]

Yes. Lets consider the foundation of all the great religions of the world. Macrobiotics. Macrobiotics is universal law.

[James S Saint]

I haven't seen anyone propose anything that isn't thousands of years old.

Any "new religion" you try to create today will merely be what you are being programmed to think is good by those already in the position by virtue of their religion (even when they don't call it a religion).

[Belinda]

Babies and bathwater, James.

We have clever minds and can evolve something better from what is old, without a complete revolution?
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[Scott]

[ape]

[James S Saint]

All persuasive constructs are of the same make. Paradigms change, leaders change, the methods remain the same.

Even Science is no different than the days of Ahdam and is rapidly catching up to the same old persuasion tricks used throughout history.

Everything is merely getting bigger, not a bit better.