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Who will win the 2012 election?

Post Number:#1  PostFebruary 21st, 2012, 2:02 am

Of you are viewing this after the election, why do you think they won? I personally think (and hope) Obama will be re-elected because Romney has no static opinion on anything, Gingrich wants to mine the moon for its resources (which are limited at best), and Santorum is a Christian, self-richeous nut job. Overall, the Republican party has become a band of homophobic, Christian, subtly and blaitently racist, nationalist nut jobs.
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Re: Who will win the 2012 election?

Post Number:#2  PostFebruary 21st, 2012, 11:50 am

I agree with your condemnation of the Republican Party and particularly the front-running candidates in the Republican party. However, I would to roughly equal degree condemn the Democratic party and all frontrunners from all parties with criticism superficially different in detail but fundamentally the same. The best summary of my criticism of all the front-runners, I think, is given in my post The Philosophy of Government Spending.
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Re: Who will win the 2012 election?

Post Number:#3  PostFebruary 21st, 2012, 1:35 pm

I voted for good ol' Ralph Nader last time and if he's running he'll probable get my vote this time as well. I just can't wait till there is an election where we are not voteing for the lesser of two evils. Not saying that they are evil people but who will do less harm to the country.

-- Updated Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:39 pm to add the following --

Oh and I think Obama will win again, the republican party is becoming the "kinda democratic" party by not sticking to it's founding principals of limited government.
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Re: Who will win the 2012 election?

Post Number:#4  PostFebruary 21st, 2012, 1:49 pm

Supposing it not better than heterophobic, atheist, Herman Cain bashing racist, global warming internationalist nut job. Don't know who will win, but what is ain't good.

Sort of agree with Scott's view of public spending. Public spending though, is usually not prosperity building, just re-arranging chairs. Private spending always is.
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Re: Who will win the 2012 election?

Post Number:#5  PostFebruary 21st, 2012, 11:41 pm

The election will most likely go to the best deceiver, as always because I have not yet convinced enough people.

The proper person to put in office however is some person any person who's name has not been printed daily. It is time for us to pick a member of a political party that is not Republican or democrat (republo-crats) they are one in the same and is one of the many reasons USA has fell in to a slump of all kinds.

There's a reason we have 3 parts to the USA government because 2 parts would surly be circumvented so why do we continue to only support 2 parties. This is the antithesis of the saying 3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead.

If you think it can't happen it's because you as an individual haven't voted for a third party. Vote anything but republican or democrat and we will see positive change.
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Re: Who will win the 2012 election?

Post Number:#6  PostFebruary 22nd, 2012, 1:12 pm

The reason I think Obama will win is because I think America doesn't want to deal with getting used to a new president.
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Re: Who will win the 2012 election?

Post Number:#7  PostFebruary 22nd, 2012, 6:28 pm

From the polisci I have studied I learned that the news media shows us increasingly extreme view points. Supposedly because that's what gets ratings. This plays a significant part in deciding who will win elections. The media is in a sense for a majority of the population, telling us what is important and what the government cares about. If the media doesn't put it out there people become apathetic to it because they are not told by credible sources. Apparently now, it is up to us to individually, like so many other things; if we want to hear unbiased news we need to seek it out ourselves.

-- Updated Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:46 pm to add the following --

This is interesting, it shows how the tenticles of walstreet and corporations influance our counrty just as much if not more than our votes do

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This is interesting, it shows how the tentacles of wall street and corporations influence our country just as much, if not more than our votes do.
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Re: Who will win the 2012 election?

Post Number:#8  PostFebruary 24th, 2012, 12:35 am

At this point, having any of the current Republican candidates in office seems like a sick joke.
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Re: Who will win the 2012 election?

Post Number:#9  PostApril 21st, 2012, 10:57 am

Kingkool wrote:The reason I think Obama will win is because I think America doesn't want to deal with getting used to a new president.



I have more faith in the American people then to be so shallow.


Kingkool wrote:At this point, having any of the current Republican candidates in office seems like a sick joke.



Not any sicker than the joke holding office at present.
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Re: Who will win the 2012 election?

Post Number:#10  PostApril 21st, 2012, 4:22 pm

Misty wrote:

Kingkool wrote:At this point, having any of the current Republican candidates in office seems like a sick joke.



Not any sicker than the joke holding office at present.

What's wrong with Obama?
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Re: Who will win the 2012 election?

Post Number:#11  PostMay 6th, 2012, 11:55 am

Both Republicans and Democrats have become a large group of wackjobs. We won't get any work done regardless of the president.
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Re: Who will win the 2012 election?

Post Number:#12  PostMay 6th, 2012, 2:36 pm

Kingkool wrote:Of you are viewing this after the election, why do you think they won? I personally think (and hope) Obama will be re-elected because Romney has no static opinion on anything, Gingrich wants to mine the moon for its resources (which are limited at best), and Santorum is a Christian, self-richeous nut job. Overall, the Republican party has become a band of homophobic, Christian, subtly and blaitently racist, nationalist nut jobs.


I certainly agree with the comments on the GOP and I hope Obama wins.

The election looks to be fought over the issue of jobs and it may be both sides have the wrong viewpoint. The economy has recovered by almost every measure except jobs. It is producing the same level of goods and services as before, but with something like five million fewer workers. My belief is that this phenomenon represents a structural change in the United States economy resulting from computerization, globalization, and reduction in the public sector workforce as states and municipalities eliminate positions. We may have, as Keynes indicated was possible, reached a new economic equilibrium at a permanent level of lower employment and a resulting lower level of consumption.

In that case cutting taxes and deregulating business—Romney's position—will have little effect on the job market. Business has plenty of cash on hand to expand and hire, but sees no need for additional employees with less demand. Romney cannot make them hire and we would wait through his term for the policies to kick in.

Nor will just continuing the present course and waiting it out—Obama's strategy—add many jobs either. (It may be the lesser of the two evils.) It commits us to a monthly job increase insufficient to meet the workforce population increase, let alone erase the jobs deficit.

Private sector jobs have seen some recovery, but public sector jobs have not and political sentiment in the country runs against them. Public sentiment opposes the pensions, benefits, and job security that have always been the hallmark of public sector jobs and kept them attractive even though salaries and wages were low.

If this analysis is correct, there is a solution, but one impossible in the current political climate. That would be to engage in a massive infrastructure renewal/public works program that would create jobs in the public and private sectors to repair and rebuild roads, bridges, prisons, airports, and schools.
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