Coup d'etat

James S Saint,

How about this, you tell me where you heard about this stuff from (your signature and "the understanding") that's a good start.

I didn't "hear about it" anywhere. I derived it myself. I am one of the few "real philosophers". And there is one hell of lot more involved, but online is very limited (largely by the apparent interest of anyone reading it, but also their education on a variety of issues; engineering, psychology, sociology, and physics being a few).

Frankly I would be delighted to go through all I know, but to whom? Your interest would fade quickly regardless of how good or bad the bottom line turned out to be. I could just as easily attempt to explain the true Unified Field Theory, but for how long would you listen or care? Just the believability factor would usually be enough to give boredom the upper hand.

Your inspiration is based entirely on your own perception of hopes and threats.
A true friend can be defined as anyone who desires to increase those 3 facets of your existence. But for that to happen, they have to understand why they would be doing that. Until they understand, how much of a true friend can they be? Anyone can change their direction via a mere whisper.. until they truly understand. Then it is no longer a question of faith or loyalty, but of solid understanding.

I never ask anyone to do more than they can see and feel is the most rational for themselves. If they do that much, they have done their job as a living entity. I couldn't ask anyone to do more than they can. Your inspiration is based entirely on your own perception of hopes and threats. If I ever want for you to do more, it is my obligation to make it apparent to you that you want it also. But if for any reason I can't do that, then I have only done what I can do.

You have 3 sources for inspirations to act;
1) your instincts (the wisest among the 3)
2) your emotions
3) your cognitive understandings

Each of those processes your "inputs", your perception. It is your "job" to yourself to weigh each of those and come to a final choice of action. You can do no more than that. If I want you to do anything differently than you already do, it is up to me to inspire one if not all of those to "see the light" of whatever it was that I wanted. Such is true of any governance as well. A true friend asks for no more and expects no more. Such is true for any "friendly" government as well.

Any true friend is merely trying to increase the momentum of your life. Any government should be doing the same or not exist.

The best way to defeat any government or religion is merely to come up with a better one, a "friendly one".

James S Saint ,

Perhaps you did derive it but some one else came the same conclusion.

I learned a lot about my self from reading this post interestingly enough.

That post answers the questions I've asked of you. Thank you.

Perhaps you did derive it but some one else came the same conclusion.

Not in dispute. And an interesting similarity.
But I bet they can't explain the exact reasons "why" to each of those recommendations.
People can read those, but very few will actually do them (and there are more basic concerns than the ones they have pointed out). I try to emphasis the understanding behind the advice (not usually very successfully). Without the understanding, everything is about faith in the speaker and/or preaching, and thus is usually easily corrupted (as in most religions).

But I found nothing in that link that I would disagree with.
Thanks for the reference.

Despite what you said, I am interested in what you have to say. I would love to hear the why for each one. Please improve on this i would love to hear your analysis.

In my years, I have taught in many places; businesses, universities, homes,...
Online things are very much more difficult when trying to explain understandings, the why's.
The reason for that is largely because I always made certain that every student learned 100% of what I was trying to convey. And in order to do that, I had to be constantly verifying what they heard from what I said. That is easy to do in person, not so easy online. Add to that the random interjection of those who either don't care or only half care, and things get pretty messy really quickly. Open forums aren't really designed well for deep discussions and certainly not for course style teaching.

Then to make things even worse, I lost most of my ability to communicate effectively a few years back. These days, I struggle for words far more than you see when reading them. But my personal biggest issue is deciding where to begin. I have to have a LOT of feedback merely to direct me toward what needs explaining next. With many, there is simply too much to explain, or so it seems.

My highest interest at this point would be to merely assemble a few people into a truly well formed group with "The Understanding", a group of "true friends". But I am not really in a situation to accomplish that at the moment. I try to not grasp for what I cannot reach (a Buddhist thing). But all in all, great to see that you would be interested in the topic even if from someone else (I don't have to be "the one" who caused it).

What did you teach?

We can do this through PM if you would like.

You don't know if you can grasp some thing till you try.

Well I first went into electronic engineering and then earned my masters in psychology. Unintentionally, my career became intelligence design. So most of what I have taught in the past involves just about everything involved in the functioning of "a mind" which includes a group of minds as well since a mind is actually a grouping anyway. I have taught children to have photographic memories, highly angry and emotional people to be calm and loving, students to excel, married couples to get along better than ever, computers how to be better at all that they do, and so on. But my point was more about the fact that I both enjoyed and was often employed to both design and teach. Unfortunately having the understanding and desire often doesn't help all that much due to the need for proper resources. One can well understand how to fly to the moon, but that doesn't mean that they can afford the gas.

Most recently I taught my processor arrangement, "Jack" (a single-bit processor and PC) a few basic principles of reality and how to then go from there and teach me. It managed to teach me about exactly why particles form and all of the why's behind what subatomic physics is all about (more than contemporary physicists seem to know).

You sound very accomplished, I would love to read your dissertations for your degrees.

my point was more about the fact that I both enjoyed and was often employed to both design and teach.

It be great if you could continue that tradition and teach "The understanding" here.

I have taught children to have photographic memories.

I would love a lesson.

I have taught children to have photographic memories.

I would love a lesson.

There are a variety of online games that you can play designed for improvement. Around the year 2000, I developed an online game that was far more advanced. I emphasize specific engram conditioning whereas others seem to merely emphasize practice.

Although my program was for online use, it still required an application download. I had barely even begun to use it when I realized that at least half of the total effect was not so much the specific engram conditioning, but rather the concurrent atmosphere. It is a combination of psychological conditioning and engram conditioning. Thus even my more precise program wasn't going to really do much except for perhaps a few people who just happen to be in the right environment. In addition, much of the problem that people are having is biomedical, involving toxins, radical chemicals, viruses, and so on. Thus even their physical health becomes a part of the overall success.

I think my most proud success came from an unexpected situation. For complicated reasons, a young Mexican girl had fallen into my care because I was caring for her mother. One day, I discovered that the young girl was failing 3rd grade in a Texas school, so I decided to step in and fix that.

The girl had weekly spelling tests consisting of 20, 5 letter words (if I remember right). When I first examined her, It took perhaps 20 minutes for me to get the proper spelling of the word "dog" out of her. But in that effort, I could identify the problems pretty easily. So I spent the next 2 weeks working with her after school for a short while. The fun part was that it had all turned out far more effective than anything I expected.

At the beginning of her third week when she brought home her spelling list, I sat her down at a table and asked for her to examine the list while I went to get a cup of coffee (or tea at that time, I think). It could not have taken more than 2 minutes tops for me to return. When I got back, the paper was over at my side of the table. I asked her if she had studied it. She quietly nodded her head. "Did you study these at school?" She shook her head "no". So I dubiously began to test her.

First I asked for the 3 letter of the 15 word. "E" she shortly replied. "Hmm.."
"Okay, the 4 letter of the 7th word?" "T" she quickly answered.
I picked a few others at random and to my surprise, she got them all.
So I just put the paper face down on the table and said, "Okay, Sweetheart, start at the bottom of the list and spell every word backwards until you get to the top of the list."

Her only hesitation was something like the 3 letter of perhaps the 3 word, but even that one she got right without help. She had memorized the entire list of 20, 5 letter words well enough to read them off from memory, even backwards, in merely 2 minutes or less.

Her spelling grades obviously became perfect in school so much so that she was constantly being watched carefully for cheating. When they asked what had happened, I found myself for the second time at that school telling them that they simply didn't know how to teach and were causing serious problems, especially in math for the students. Needless to say, they didn't really like me much there. But she wasn't held back a grade as they had planned on doing.

With the right atmosphere and the proper sequence of flash-card like images, most children could easily learn what she had learned.

Since it doesn't really take all that much to do it, you should be asking yourself about now why others aren't doing such things. I asked that question too. They aren't going to change what works for them. Your society isn't what you think it is. And any Coup d'etat that you began would most likely merely make it stronger.

I waded randomly through about half of the preceding posts, so I may have missed some good ones.

That sentence tells you up-front that I learned nothing from this forum. The basic problem is that it is about correcting serious defects in the U.S. Government that are assumed to exist but that in reality are unsupported by evidence to justify those assumptions. The assumed serious defects are, of course, that this government and/or its corporations are corrupt. Having no solid base, the forum is mostly a hodge-podge of unrelated, ill defined, and often personal-exchange comments.

I do agree with the one or two members who pointed out the generally dismal history that coups have had.

An attitudinal change of the citizenry should be tried. Instead of assuming that evil or immoral people are responsible for this nation's problems. we should stop looking under the bed for villians to conquer, remember there's no such thing as a fault-free democracy and republic -- and FIX the problems. Maybe then, we will all wake up to the Number 1 problem -- the campaign financing practice. We MUST rescue our legislative representatives from the conflict of interest that enables people to loosely accuse all legislators of chicanery and does indeed foster misjudgements.. Do that one thing. I guarantee your GIGANTIC SATISFACTION!

Dewey,

Corporations have already complete control the food market, oil market, money, and they are working diligently on the water. They pay the legislative body in what amount to bribes to make these business moves legal. Thats just a tip in the very large multi headed ice berg.

A list of documentaries follows:

How to boil a frog Food, Inc. Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup American Drug War: The Last White Hope
GasHole Frontline: College, Inc. No End in Sight Pregnant in America Plastic Planet Homo Toxicus
A Crude Awakening: The Oil Crash The War on Democracy A River of Waste: The Hazardous Truth
Escape from Suburbia Cool It Frontline: The Warning I Want Your Money Crude Independence CNBC Originals: Scam of the Century Frontline: Ten Trillion and Counting The End of the Line An Inconvenient Tax
Frontline: Sick Around the World Thirst 911: In Plane Site Ingredients The End of America

by no means is this list complete. Stop blaming the victim.

[quote="wanabe"]Dewey,

Corporations have already complete control the food market, oil market, money, and they are working diligently on the water. They pay the legislative body in what amount to bribes to make these business moves legal. Thats just a tip in the very large multi headed ice berg.


Hi wanabe.

Some FACTS: In 2009 $2.1 trillion (60 percent) of federal spending went for payments to individuals -- Socal Security, Medicare, food stamps, etc) Almost all of these payments were to the poor and middle class. Meanwhile, the richest 5 percent of Americans paid 44 percent of federal taxes. How do you square those facts with your indictment of the corporations?

Perhaps we need to look around some more for our victim and his evil victimizer. Better yet, why don't we stop the empty moralizing and GO TO WORK AND FIX THE CAMPAIGN FINANCING PROBLEM!

When you compare 2.1 trillion spread out across 311,000,000 people it works out to be a whopping $6,752.41158 per person.

Let's look at bailouts to corporations and the bonus they give to their executives after the bailouts. "Citigroup...received $45 billion in taxpayer funds" now that's spread out among a lot less people, who really don't need the money in the first place.

A quick look at the debt clock shows that defense and federal pensions are about equal to Medicare.

Do I have to explain proportions to you?

Victim and villain found.

I agree that we need to clean up the mistakes of the government and the corporations though, cause they're certainly not doing any thing about it by them selves.

Thanks for your prompt reply, wanabe.

I see nothing in your response to change the fact that OVERALL most of the money spent by our Federal government consists of peyments to the poor and middle class people. If OVERALL (1) the corporations are in control of this country and (2) the main purpose of corporations is to make money, why are they allowing so much of the wealth to escape their grasp? Could it be that OVERALL they just don"t have the power to do that?

You say I don't understand proportions. wanabe. Maybe you"re right and my logic here is wrong. I hope we can get the ideas of other members about this matter. That would be very helpful.