Post Number:#91 March 14th, 2012, 12:52 pm
Xris wrote:Genesis, there was no jesus. I will ask again is the holy ghost a separate entity. The trinity was invented by roman catholic scholars Fanman. There is no direct statement in the bible telling us there is a trinity. It was an assumption gathered from certain phrases mentioned in the new testament. Christians make the mistake of refering to the gods of the old testament to enforce the trinity but how can you have a trinity before christs birth? There is constant effort by theologians to counter the countless contradictions in the bible. You in the last few days have encountered the various beliefs and contradictions. Is there free will, does the bible state as much? If it does not indicate free will, have we free will? Did god make us perfect? None of you believers are certain of anything except your determination to keep the faith. Eric nailed it. There is no sense in faith or the bible only disjointed desires and contradictions.Fanman wrote:Xris wrote:So god created us in his schizophrenic self. So lets admit the holy ghost as one with god. Does that infer a different entity?Fanman wrote:Xris wrote:Fanman wrote:Hi Xris,Xris wrote:
What do think Misty's comment indicated. More than one god?
I think that the reason God refers to himself as "us" in the book of Genesis, is because God is a trinity of three beings in one - the father, the son, and the holy spirit; not because there is more than one God.
The trinity was an invention after Christs death. If you can recall the old testament was before Christ and before the invention of the holy ghost. Not one mention of the holy ghost in the old testament.
Xris, what you say here doesn't alter God's constitution, it all comes from the same book. In the new testament Jesus states that he and the father are one, in the book of Genesis, God refers to himself as us - there is consistency. And where there is consistency, there is usually truth.
Xris, I believe that God, the holy spirit and Jesus exist symbiotically.
Before Christ's birth he was with God. We learn this in the first chapter of John's gospel. "In the beginning there was the word, the word was with God and the word was God." If that is not a symbiotic relationship then I don't know what is.