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Re: Ghosts

Post Number:#31  PostMarch 21st, 2012, 4:49 pm

dparrott wrote:If ghost and spirit are the same thing but with different words then I believe all living objects have ghosts/spirits. Whether they linger around or not I'm undecided.

That is a common usage and belief in many cultures including the American Indian.
Clarify, Verify, and Instill the Hopes and Threats that lead to the Maximum Momentum of Self-Harmony for the Living - Measure your Progress.
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From THIS age of sleep, Homosapian shall never awake.
What remains in harmony cannot perish.

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Re: Ghosts

Post Number:#32  PostMarch 21st, 2012, 9:38 pm

Notable that it would be a part of so many cultures, so widely dispersed, so different but yet so similar on a basic psychological "layer" so to speak. A Jungian approach I suppose with the collective unconscious- fair enough, it seems to support it.

and "The soul has very little to do with the body." -James S Saint:
I find it the quite opposite, the body is a vessel, and for a soul's time in whether it be this dimension, or layer, or world, or physical nature, or descendence from heaven- whichever- it is a very important vessel which allows the soul to experience a certain way. Maybe in another dimension, layer, etc., it would have a different vessel, meant to experience different phenomena. The body is not everything to a soul, and the soul exists without it, but the body is a necessity- and the poisons of this world affect the soul through the body even if just temporarily, to help it learn.
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Re: Ghosts

Post Number:#33  PostMarch 22nd, 2012, 2:38 pm

Amakatura Murou wrote:the body is a vessel, and for a soul's time in whether it be this dimension, or layer, or world, or physical nature, or descendence from heaven- whichever- it is a very important vessel which allows the soul to experience a certain way. Maybe in another dimension, layer, etc., it would have a different vessel, meant to experience different phenomena. The body is not everything to a soul, and the soul exists without it, but the body is a necessity- and the poisons of this world affect the soul through the body even if just temporarily, to help it learn.

Granted. I had meant that "the definition and makeup of the soul has little to do with the body".
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Re: Ghosts

Post Number:#34  PostMarch 22nd, 2012, 7:44 pm

Amakatura Murou wrote:I agree, James. And Discards, are you in fact a ghost? How do you know all of these things and yet discard (ha) the idea that we can not move backwards?\
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I understand what you are saying, and would like to add the thought of ghost not being able to be seen or felt, but living on inside of us. As to say "finishing the job". almost as if their spirits lived on through another to maybey finish what may have never been finished in their (the ghost) life time.
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Post Number:#35  PostMarch 22nd, 2012, 9:19 pm

Vincent,
As if to continue in another dimension or form? Please elaborate. To what aim would this ghost have?
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Post Number:#36  PostMarch 28th, 2012, 10:18 pm

These ghost would be from another time with an aim to try, and finish any ideas or thoughts they had started while these ghost were living.
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Post Number:#37  PostApril 2nd, 2012, 8:32 pm

Vincent Auditore wrote:These ghost would be from another time with an aim to try, and finish any ideas or thoughts they had started while these ghost were living.


A ghost/soul is not stuck in one place, or so I believe, and linger only when they feel as though there may be unfinished business, but really the living are the only things holding the dead back. Whether souls move in a cycle, or in a straight line, I believe they have something to move on to. More knowledge perhaps, more God. Maybe more experience, more Love.
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Post Number:#38  PostApril 4th, 2012, 12:10 am

Ghosts exist in art form and in the human brain.Really there are no ghosts.Ones own shadow is the ghost.
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Post Number:#39  PostApril 5th, 2012, 3:07 pm

Sekhar wrote:Ghosts exist in art form and in the human brain.Really there are no ghosts.Ones own shadow is the ghost.


For all those stating "there are no ghosts" are acting exactly those who say "yes, there ARE ghosts!"

To be skeptical isn't the same as pretending ghosts can never exist. All my friends who played with a wigi board said there's no way for ghosts not to exist lol. The thing is, I don't know, but I won't close my mind and say that nothing exist like people do. I'd rather believe that everything can be possible. If I go home and my fridge says "hi" I would probably say "hi fridge!" :P
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Post Number:#40  PostApril 12th, 2012, 9:04 am

Let's move away from specters and opinions about whether ghosts exist or not. The real question is based around whether ghosts are representations of an infinite soul that is either numbed or excited by experience.

And my fridge isn't as friendly as yours, Rodrigo.
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Post Number:#41  PostApril 13th, 2012, 5:35 am

I believe I am a lost soul.

Day to day I search this world for something of satisfaction, but with no luck I must forfeit. :(
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Post Number:#42  PostApril 13th, 2012, 7:25 am

RedPanda900 wrote:I believe I am a lost soul.

Day to day I search this world for something of satisfaction, but with no luck I must forfeit. :(


The soul is never lost: as long as you seek to grow, you will grow. If only in a spiritual way, it may not be noticeable by your human self. Don't forfeit, that teaches your soul nothing.

Humanity is losing its soul, maybe we can all fight to hold onto it. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6136
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