Post Number:#182 March 28th, 2012, 7:02 pm
Xris wrote:Parro I think the world would have been better of without mother Theresa. she is hardly the best example of religous conviction. You can not select what you choose. You can not pick the good moral teachings from religion and claim that alone should be considered. Need we go over all the terrible advice religion gives us and the evil that it perpetrated.
Kingkool wrote:I disagree. There would still be terrorism, but not as much. Religion is responsible for most terrorism, but this is not to say that without religion, there would be no war. People have always said that if we wern't fighting over religion, or oil, government, ect., we would just find something else to fight over. I don't think this is true. Eventually, we will run out of things to fight over. To not blame religion for the death and hardship it causes because it would have happened for some other reason is like not convicting a rapist for raping an attractive woman because someone else would have just done it anyway.dparrott wrote:Religion has had many different effects on society all the way from terrorists to civil rights. Osama Bin Landin to Martin Luther King Jr. With religion we have advanced ex. abolisionists, civilrights, inalianable rights. With religion we have declined ex. hate crimes, clinic bombings, and 911. It is not the religion itself that has brought about these good and bad things but the way in which people have interpreted it and acted in it's name. Would there be any terrorists? christian and muslim, if religion did not exist? I believe so. Would there be people like Mother Thersa if religion did not exist? I also believe there would be. Is it fair to blame the religion for good and bad people that come out of it? I believe not, because there would be good and bad people without the existence of religion.
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Post Number:#186 March 30th, 2012, 5:35 am
She has also been criticized for her view on suffering. She felt that suffering would bring people closer to Jesus. Sanal Edamaruku, President of Rationalist International, criticised the failure to give painkillers, writing that in her Homes for the Dying, one could "hear the screams of people having maggots tweezered from their open wounds without pain relief. On principle, strong painkillers are even in hard cases not given. According to Mother Teresa's philosophy, it is 'the most beautiful gift for a person that he can participate in the sufferings of Christ'
Post Number:#187 March 30th, 2012, 6:17 am
Jerry wrote:Belinda: "Tell me you are being sarcastic Jerry!"
Yes I was Belinda. I have followed this thread a while and see mostly that religion is assigned the scourge of humanity. But it is the natural urges that lead to evils, not religion; at least not Christianity.
Post Number:#188 March 30th, 2012, 7:19 am
Kingkool wrote:Actually, I read them for entertainment. To recieve a course on a religion creates a bias coming from the teacher, which probably will affect your opinion of it.
I consider Buddhism to be more of a philosophy than a religion.
You seem to be avoiding my request which was to prove to me that there is a large difference between religions, not the affect of that opinion. And just to be clear, I don't mean how most people interperet the text, but what is actually written.
Post Number:#189 March 30th, 2012, 8:52 am
Kingkool wrote:You misinterpereted my post. I didn't say I blame religion. I just said that if there wasn't religion, then these things wouldn't have happened. I blame the people who were influenced by the religion.
Xris wrote:Parro , Mother Theresa. Just google the truth about her and you will be suprised.
Post Number:#190 March 30th, 2012, 1:08 pm
Post Number:#191 March 30th, 2012, 6:17 pm
Xris wrote:Parro Mother Theresa was just one sick individual. She sent 90% of the donated monies to the Vatican. She and her sisters were treated in Swiss hospitals while her charges suffered. She believed suffering was a gift from god but not for her. I despise her and the church that permitted her horrors. We stupid and naive fools believed the propaganda. No you can not pick and choose your heroes, your best examples. Simply because when they fail the test you disown them. Do you really want Mother Theresa to be held up as an example of the value of christian beliefs? It's the singers not the song.
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Post Number:#194 March 31st, 2012, 4:50 pm
Xenos wrote:King_David_James wrote:In the story of Adam and Eve, it was Knowledge of Good and Evil, not Knowledge. They had Knowledge, they just had no concept of good and evil, they knew the rules, and broke them.
I've always found that aspect to be rather non-sensical. God designed them without the knowledge of good and evil, and then demanded they obey his edict to not eat the fruit, a task which requires knowledge of good and evil. And then punishes them for a task which, by his own design, they were unable to avoid. "I will make you without the knowledge that you should not steal, then demand you do not steal this fruit, and then when you do I will punish you for it!"
Post Number:#195 March 31st, 2012, 10:43 pm
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