Is sexual intercourse looks cultured and logical?

Misty mam

You didn't misunderstood my question but I think you given the reply very hastily.

I will not consider your reply as it is too fast.

I had asked for a logic and you told me that there is no logic even when i explained that behind every other emotions humans use to give reason which is most probably right according to them but what they consider as probable logic behind the emotion of sex because humans couldn't have to be biased between different emotions. It should be carefully analyzed.

Mifune-toshiro

The last sentence is for you too. Also I want to say that I don’t consider the sexual organs as ugly and I didn’t used this word rather I used nasty it means very different. The ugly and nasty is not the same word and also not have same
meaning. By nasty I mean to say dirty and not ugly. I also find sexual organ beautiful and not ugly but I also find them dirty. I also had a post on “Beauty” topic (4th page), I had mentioned the sexual organs as beautiful there.

Qualify what you mean by dirty and nasty. My little dictionary has 6 meanings for nasty and 10 for dirty.

What about sexual activity affirming existence, value, worthiness?

Misty
Yes you have made a good point, sex has always been sold as a commodity throughout the ages. I suppose in this day and age, which is my main view, the selling of sex is highly prevelant with mass media.
Okisites,
I apologise for using the wrong term.

Misty Mam

I am really not able to tell you exactly what I meant of dirty & nasty but what I meant is something like this:-
Dirty and Nasty according to me means something which is related to bad smelling waste material infected with bacteria or any other kind of disease spreading viruses to which humans generally doesn't like to see or touch. It can be a waste material on dustbin or faecal matter inside the body which body generally gives out.

I really respect the sexual activity for affirming existence even I believe everything for humans is started with sexual
activity even every religion in the very beginning originated from sexual activity and the organs related with it. I really and very deeply understand the significance of sexual activity but I didn't understand really how you meant to say it affirm value and worthiness.

Mam, I am trying to write a book over emotional logic and I think it is 25% done and i really concerned with the emotion and logic and emotional logic and human understanding of emotions. What question I given, is strictly about the human understanding of sexual emotion and logic related with it. I know there's a incapability in humans to give the logic behind the sexual emotions. The answer could be given but it couldn't be given in general terms and understanding. I raised this question also to put the question into the human mind that why are they much attracted towards sex. I will be satisfied even if people give me any probable logic behind it whether right or wrong or of any kind (but strictly about emotions though). I need it.

Okisites

Your search is noble and I wish you the best.
Every idea that you read gives a new insight, however simple. My ideas maybe nonsense and do not provoke anything new and I apologise for that in advance. And I would like to also ask questions before giving supposed prepositions. Sexual emotions is a difficult subject, but your right to ask why it's has not been explored, as the other emotions have. Maybe that answers the question in some ways and, that idea could be a starting point, for anybody wanting to consider this.
Your probably bored of hearing the simple base needs of humans, when it comes to sexual emotions, in short the sexual needs of the organs which cause emotions to be without reason. Is there a choice for man, in this ? And is the logic, actually the commiting of the sexual act, the final act, so to speak?
In regards to the emotions, is it possible that sexual-intercourse is the accumliation of many emotions we have?
Just on a side note, would it be necessary to distinguish between the sexes here , male and female emotions in regard to sex, in its modern sense maybe different.

-- Updated April 28th, 2012, 7:56 pm to add the following --

On a side note, from personal experience. Sex can be ridiculous at times and seem obsurd ; with my last girlfriend there were occasions when I would start laughing during sex, especially at its most intense, the intensity of two humans with its groans and moans would make me laugh, was this because of its intensity? Probably!

Mifune-toshiro

Thanks for wishing me the best. I really need wishes because I am a lazy person though laziness is good for thinking but not for working. Thinking provokes laziness actually and distracts from work.

I didn't understand at the first instance what you really had asked but I think you asked that the question put forth by me may be a starting point for anybody wanting to consider this. OK, it may be but I don't whether it is? It may be the starting point because I had asked for logic behind the sexual emotions and nobody suggesting me anything or answering me though I feel that I also had answered by psychology student and I think he may be very well dipped into psychology because he tries to judge everybody's psychology or give answer according to psychology book in his mind. Heavy heartedly it may be a starting point.

I don't think really that there's any choice for men regarding sex besides getting effected by it. It may be possible that the sexual emotions is the accumulation of many emotions but I can understand it only when you make me understand that in what basis you judged so or how you can explain this.

I don't think it is necessary to distinguish between the sexes. It may be necessary if there is difference between the emotion of male and female regarding sex but i think so that there is no difference between male and female emotions about sex rather than the expression of it.

It may be because of the intensity and groans and moans and also it may be because of its ridiculousness and absurdness if you or your consciousness considers it to be by anyway possible.

Deeply, I believe humans are not at all able to think about any of their emotions or emotional problems, they only can guess. But they even guess about any other emotions but why not sex. That’s why I asked for natural human logic behind sex.

Regards,

Misty Mam

I am really not able to tell you exactly what I meant of dirty & nasty but what I meant is something like this:- Dirty and Nasty according to me means something which is related to bad smelling waste material infected with bacteria or any other kind of disease spreading viruses to which humans generally doesn't like to see or touch. It can be a waste material on dustbin or faecal matter inside the body which body generally gives out.

I really respect the sexual activity for affirming existence even I believe everything for humans is started with sexual activity even every religion in the very beginning originated from sexual activity and the organs related with it. I really and very deeply understand the significance of sexual activity but I didn't understand really how you meant to say it affirm value and worthiness.

Mam, I am trying to write a book over emotional logic and I think it is 25% done and i really concerned with the emotion and logic and emotional logic and human understanding of emotions. What question I given, is strictly about the human understanding of sexual emotion and logic related with it. I know there's a incapability in humans to give the logic behind the sexual emotions. The answer could be given but it couldn't be given in general terms and understanding. I raised this question also to put the question into the human mind that why are they much attracted towards sex. I will be satisfied even if people give me any probable logic behind it whether right or wrong or of any kind (but strictly about emotions though). I need it.

Are you including the emotion of love connected to sex? Or are you only talking of the sex act and what emotions drive mankind to want to engage in an activity that seems to use organs that aren't attractive and are located where other body functions take place?

I feel sorry for the person who believes that sex is simply the friction between two people, if anything it is the friction between one person and the world.

I feel sorry for the person who believes that sex is simply the friction between two people, if anything it is the friction between one person and the world.

How is sex the friction of one person with the world?

Because that is what it means to ****.

-- Updated April 29th, 2012, 4:55 pm to add the following --

That is why the word **** dose not mean love, waterfalls and butterflies, it simply means what it says. Anyone having a good ****, ought to know. **** the world. It is offensive, it is meant to be. People want to make love, ought to be able to do it without ****. Love has **** all to do with it. What is the point in being a sinner, if you can't be a good sinner?

Misty mam

I do not including the emotion of love which is connected to sex as it is automatically connect itself to many other emotions. It is mostly present in many other kind of emotions, I think so.

For example:- Love for money- Need or Greed Love for body:- Sex Love for respect:- Ego or proud Love is mostly attached with many other emotions and it is also attached with sexual emotions also. Love is what human likes. Like is a short form of Love. If anybody like something than we can say that he may love that something. There’s no need of inclusion of love separately.

I only talking about the emotion of sex and the logic which drive human to engage in an activity that seems to use organs that are very attractive but connected with bad smelling material infected with maybe bacteria or any other kind of disease spreading viruses to which humans generally doesn’t like to see or touch. How could they enter or let other enter in or such organ to their similar or non-similar kind of body part, Why their conscience do not make them aware as it mostly do with other kind of similar material or scenario. I think in every part of body wherever it may be located there is other body functions take place.

Try to find the reason which drives human to do sex.

Misty mam

I do not including the emotion of love which is connected to sex as it is automatically connect itself to many other emotions. It is mostly present in many other kind of emotions, I think so.

For example:- Love for money- Need or Greed Love for body:- Sex Love for respect:- Ego or proud Love is mostly attached with many other emotions and it is also attached with sexual emotions also. Love is what human likes. Like is a short form of Love. If anybody like something than we can say that he may love that something. There’s no need of inclusion of love separately.

I only talking about the emotion of sex and the logic which drive human to engage in an activity that seems to use organs that are very attractive but connected with bad smelling material infected with maybe bacteria or any other kind of disease spreading viruses to which humans generally doesn’t like to see or touch. How could they enter or let other enter in or such organ to their similar or non-similar kind of body part, Why their conscience do not make them aware as it mostly do with other kind of similar material or scenario. I think in every part of body wherever it may be located there is other body functions take place.

Try to find the reason which drives human to do sex.

I now understand your question. What is the non love reason or emotions that drive humans to engage in sexual activity with each other?

-- Updated Tue May 01, 2012 6:32 am to add the following --

Misty Mam

I am really not able to tell you exactly what I meant of dirty & nasty but what I meant is something like this:- Dirty and Nasty according to me means something which is related to bad smelling waste material infected with bacteria or any other kind of disease spreading viruses to which humans generally doesn't like to see or touch. It can be a waste material on dustbin or faecal matter inside the body which body generally gives out.

I really respect the sexual activity for affirming existence even I believe everything for humans is started with sexual activity even every religion in the very beginning originated from sexual activity and the organs related with it. I really and very deeply understand the significance of sexual activity but I didn't understand really how you meant to say it affirm value and worthiness.

Mam, I am trying to write a book over emotional logic and I think it is 25% done and i really concerned with the emotion and logic and emotional logic and human understanding of emotions. What question I given, is strictly about the human understanding of sexual emotion and logic related with it. I know there's a incapability in humans to give the logic behind the sexual emotions. The answer could be given but it couldn't be given in general terms and understanding. I raised this question also to put the question into the human mind that why are they much attracted towards sex. I will be satisfied even if people give me any probable logic behind it whether right or wrong or of any kind (but strictly about emotions though). I need it.

Are you including the emotion of love connected to sex? Or are you only talking of the sex act and what emotions drive mankind to want to engage in an activity that seems to use organs that aren't attractive and are located where other body functions take place?

When one affirms their existence with sexual activity that is a value system, making oneself feel worthy that a fellow human finds them attractive, and 'wants' them at that moment above all other people, a feeling of not being alone in the world, a sense of belonging. (when in fact the other person's agenda may not include or care about the sexual partner's mental or physical heath or well being) Sometimes the affirmation will include one feeling worthy of life itself.

Because humans are wired to procreate and seek the pleasure of orgasm, it would be very hard to separate (if at all) a specific emotion that draws people to sexual activity.

I think maybe the emotion you speak of is the same emotion that would cause one person to eat another human to survive, in a worst case scenario. Eating a human is considered nasty, dirty and unacceptable, but doable when the survival mode kicks in.

While male sodomy is openly deified, heterosexual sodomy is usually not open for discussion, while it has been an activity since early history.

Then there is also a feeling of power over another human, be it seduction or force.

Misty mam I am sorry once again that I didn't seen your updated post as I said in private message.

I find it difficult to relate your first stanza to my topic. If you can make it more clear than I think that I can make a comment over this. I really do not understand that how attracting humans and affirmation of existence is related to the thinking or getting effected for doing sexual activity because sexual activity, I think is something like unimaginable to human mind.

Yes I want to know how humans are get wired to do sexual activity as humans do everything very thoughtfully and understandably. I can think that the want of procreation make humans to do sexual activity but as sexual intercourse involves such adjustments in human body ( on the part of male ) that does not seems to be logically controlled. I don't think that the feeling of procreation actually make humans to do sex at the first place but I think behind the feeling of sex there is just a force of nature at the first place which make humans and all animals to indulge in a sexual activity. In other words humans actually do not do sex for procreation.

As you suggested that the eating of a human by another human to survive in worst scenario even when it looks nasty, dirty, and unacceptable is maybe the same emotions as that of sexual emotions. It could be a good point but it differs by the thoughtfulness and understanding still working in even worst scenario to consider it as nasty, dirty and unacceptable but still doing it as it is must to survive means again it is a process of thinking and understanding is involved. Secondly the survival in the example is actually related with our own as a different entity but the survival in the sexual activity is related with the survival of human species and our own. And I think human consider their own survival most important than any other thing but I don't think that human is concerned about the survival of human species as it is related with the sexual activity.

The male sodomy and heterosexual sodomy proves that humans does not do sex for procreation and it is just a force which goes through strong thoughtless emotion. I also think that it maybe possible that force for doing sex is not even a emotion because there is always an understandable or explainable reason for every emotion except sex, I think so.

Mam please proceed

Regards

I think sex like crying, or yelling, or fighting, or laughing is a release of tensions. So I do not agree all emotions except sex is understandable or has reason.

MIsty mam

It is a very good point that sex could be a release of tension sex as we don't know why we do such actions like crying, yelling, laughing or fighting. What make us behave like this? But i am feeling that if i ask why are you crying or yelling or fighting or laughing that anybody can give me a lot of reasons if they really want to. But if i asked why you are doing sex, then I don't think that anyone could give me an answer. Actually all these actions are related with some emotions and as I said earlier that every emotion except sex can be understandable or explainable, therefore I will say that if I ask any body the question given before, they give me answer. Even if I asked somebody else that why someone is crying than he will guess the probable reason and give me that answer.

I think crying, yelling, fighting is a form of expression given in respect of some kind of emotion and related with some kind of loss/gain type of thinking. Therefore the action of sex could be the expression but what raise the feeling of having sex means what is that loss/gain kind of thinking behind the sexual action.

Also my question is related with that I don't think that humans can think about doing such actions means it is unimaginable to human though they are do this very willfully, very consciously even very intelligently. How could they do unimaginable actions so consciously and have very concerned about that?

Also action (expressions) is such that which does not looks like that human can have very much concerned about such action because it is very clearly visible it is a kind of insane behavior because we are dealing with the organs which is supposed to be the most dirty as the "sodomy" suggest. What type of culture and logical consciousness is this?

I can agree with you that the action is an expression of an emotion but then also i will stick to the loss/gain thinking behind the rise of this emotions alongwith the unimaginable quality and insane illogical uncultured consciousness of intelligent humans.

Please tell me any emotion to which humans could not give the answer after understanding the scenario even another person who has the knowledge of the scenario. It could happen sometime with some people that they cannot express their emotion but they still be understood by others if the others know their situations.

thanking you,

Regards,

Okisites,

I think that each of us senses that we are only 1/2 of a whole (either masculine or feminine but not both). Sexual desire is based on the reasoning that we need a mate - someone to "fit with" to feel and be whole. Most people feel alone - because after all, after birth, we each are pretty much on our own physically. And nobody is sharing our thoughts and emotions, so we can feel alone in that way too. There is a need to feel connected - to not feel so alone, which is why so many are frustrated yet continue looking for a sense of fulfillment in all the wrong places and manners.

I would say that although most people will not call their lover or whoever is the basis for their ideas of infatuation, "God" - still, many do worship romance because of this need to feel whole. There is an emotional, mostly illusional belief that this person is the source of our happiness and only he/she can make us feel whole. Just consider how many songs, movies and other media is based on romance or sex.

I think that God is an energetic principle with an infinite variety of expressions. Ideally, our own expression of such energy varies in a balanced & harmonious way, otherwise there is addiction or imbalance. Still, it is difficult to "worship" an abstract principle because principles in themselves don't help us connect, but rather expressions of the principles do. Sex is more concrete (5 senses), but still based on illusional imagination to allow for such worship.

We all engage in illusional thinking - because we cannot consider all possibilities, but only subjectively chosen, limited ones. Thus, there is a tendency to be drawn to functional illusions - or rather seemingly functional illusions - that work for us in some way and for some time. Sex is often considered (subconsciously) a functional illusion that helps us connect both physically and emotionally - to the extent that we imagine the other capable of making us FEEL whole.

Also... for many who have so little of other pleasure, considering that almost 1 billion people are chronically hungry, sex is free and relatively convenient pleasure.