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are american people responsible for the wars?

Post by kordofany » April 27th, 2018, 11:35 am

Are the American people responsible for the wars led by the United States administrations against other peoples of the world? If the answer is no; Is this a flaw in democracy

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Re: are american people responsible for the wars?

Post by LuckyR » April 28th, 2018, 2:40 am

kordofany wrote:
April 27th, 2018, 11:35 am
Are the American people responsible for the wars led by the United States administrations against other peoples of the world? If the answer is no; Is this a flaw in democracy
What you are pondering is: are those who are lead responsible for the leadership? Most would say no, the tail doesn’t wag the dog.
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Re: are american people responsible for the wars?

Post by Grecorivera5150 » May 13th, 2018, 9:04 pm

Yes and Yes.

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Re: are american people responsible for the wars?

Post by Alias » May 18th, 2018, 12:22 am

Yes and No and Yes and No.
Democracy is a good idea, but far too easy to corrupt.
People are far too easy to mislead, divert, confuse and cheat.
Then, too, American culture has two or three fundamental contradictions embedded in it. Contradictory belief is crazy-making, so people ignore those issues - until they're forced to to take a life-and-death stand on one of them, and then the majority line up according to early-childhood indoctrination or Pavlovian response, rather than a considered, informed, rational decision -
which is hard enough to come by, given the special-interest-driven communications network
and the paranoid secretiveness of key government agencies -
so they support whatever party promises to keep them safe from whatever threat they've most recently been scared by.

Yes, they really ought to think more clearly.
But, no, they don't get much time to do that between crises, and they're starved for reliable information to think about.

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Re: are american people responsible for the wars?

Post by Greta » May 18th, 2018, 3:04 am

I wonder about the propaganda role of Rupert Murdoch's media empire in the US's wars and his complete lack of accountability.

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Re: are american people responsible for the wars?

Post by kordofany » May 19th, 2018, 5:45 pm

Alias wrote:
May 18th, 2018, 12:22 am
Yes and No and Yes and No.
Democracy is a good idea, but far too easy to corrupt.
People are far too easy to mislead, divert, confuse and cheat.
Then, too, American culture has two or three fundamental contradictions embedded in it. Contradictory belief is crazy-making, so people ignore those issues - until they're forced to to take a life-and-death stand on one of them, and then the majority line up according to early-childhood indoctrination or Pavlovian response, rather than a considered, informed, rational decision -
which is hard enough to come by, given the special-interest-driven communications network
and the paranoid secretiveness of key government agencies -
so they support whatever party promises to keep them safe from whatever threat they've most recently been scared by.

Yes, they really ought to think more clearly.
But, no, they don't get much time to do that between crises, and they're starved for reliable information to think about.

It is an incoherent answer, but implicitly implies that the American people are very selfish and totally submissive to a hidden dictatorship that they can not escape.

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Re: are american people responsible for the wars?

Post by Alias » May 19th, 2018, 9:22 pm

kordofany wrote:
May 19th, 2018, 5:45 pm
It is an incoherent answer, but implicitly implies that the American people are very selfish and totally submissive to a hidden dictatorship that they can not escape.
No and No.
(implicitly implies?)

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