I will reply to some of your comments about my comments. In reverse order from the bottom to the top above, for convenience.dawwg wrote: ↑July 31st, 2019, 8:52 pmThankyou for the welcomeAh! I am a slow learner with much to learn, including the politics of addressing the topic or disparaging the participants.I doubt the rules of this forum are intrinsically laws of nature, however much an authority would like to consider be regarded as such.And there's probably a rule that applies. Why is one person/one card drawn out of the deck of 52? By chance? By design? Granted the uninformed are entitled to their doubts and their expression of them.Suppositions circulated by authorities on the matter such as you lot"Can we all agree on that" well, no, but we can invoke precedent in our favor.Personally I think 'faith in our philosophy" is overly optimistic. Look around, the philosophy of division and advantage results in National identity and warfare, you have faith in that?
"and in Their existence, for our own benefit"- No doubt the laws that proscribe us exist, and humanity is a product of resisting the law of the jungle.
"... humanity is a product of resisting the law of the jungle." This seems true. One lesson of history is that human rights overall on this planet of ours have developed over a long period of time such that we no longer condone slavery or murder of civilian populations. Up until Christianity became well established in Europe, this had not happened yet. Philosophy was unable to do it. Christianity succeeded. As much as I despise modern religions, Christianity was good for something once.
"... the philosophy of division and advantage results in National identity and warfare, you have faith in that?" I do have faith in philosophy for myself as I carefully apply it being cautious not to make any mistakes for myself. I do believe in patriotism and nationalism as well, however both of these were sorely tested during LBJ's leadership during the Viet Nam (classical spelling, means South Viet) War. I got around that draft the same as Bill Clinton did, by enrolling in ROTC/NROTC in college. During my last semester, Saigon fell, and the last Marines were helo'ed out of there. The next 6 years of my tour of duty were very peaceful. That's how I had planned it. I was willing to go to Viet Nam against my better angels but God in His Providence must have deemed/deigned that I shall not have gone.
"... Why is one person/one card drawn out of the deck of 52? By chance? By design? Granted the uninformed are entitled to their doubts and their expression of them." God(s) clearly must prefer some people to others. You cannot get around this. Some people are apparently bad, some are nondescript, some are good, some are great, and some are outstanding. When you look at Moses, Elijah, Samuel, Nehemiah, Peter, James, John, Paul, and John The Baptist, God definitely does play favorites. There is no way around this. So we should simply stop pretending that God loves all of us the same. He clearly loves some more than others. Whether for a reason or not, He does.