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The subject of AI is as complex as it is intriguing.

When it comes down to it, is it ever possible to create an individual "entity"? (which is what AI in theory is). To create AI we must input information first, and then allow said AI system to interpret and build off of that information. This is not an individual entity, but instead a collection of data.

So then arises the question, how far can AI go? My personal theory on this question is as follows: Creating a functioning AI system would be dependent upon collecting mass amounts of information, from everyone and everywhere. With the knowledge, memories, experiences, and thoughts of over 7 billion humans, this system would have endless decisions to choose from and build off of, seemingly creating an "individual." But evidently this is not the case, as is clearly stated above.

What are your guys' thoughts and opinions on this subject?
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Hi G&A

Note that this topic has been pretty extensively covered here and the thread, Can a man-made computer become conscious? onlinephilosophyclub.com/forums/viewtop ... 2&t=19 may be of interest to you.

Re: your particular question and angle, is the larger system of connected human minds is integrated enough to act as one mind? Is it more akin to a nerve net or an encephalised nervous system? It seems to me that, at society/national level, the level of connection seems more akin to that seen of organisations where, "the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing" than organisms. However, it does seem as though societies are "encephalising" - forming regions where the best resources are concentrated, which continue to take much more than their share of a society's total spoils. These concentrated regions exert control over the rest.

The brain pulls together a single worldview from a range of tranches - the visual, olfactory, auditory, somatosensory and other systems. Each of those systems comprises sub-systems that consist of different kinds of cell communities. Billions of layered, smaller messages condensed into a single larger worldview. At this stage, the "greater mind" of society would seem less than the sum of its parts.
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Imagine: even if you could construct a Turing test that blew testing panels away with 100 percent authenticity in imitating the communicative structure of human social interaction. Imagine further that the constructed entity on the other side of the Turing wall is capable of structured cognitive mental events that perfectly matched a human's (forget that this would be nigh impossible to confirm).The tinking IA could calculate, imagine, anticipate, analyze, synthesize and on and on. Further still, imagine the sensory "qualia" was subtle enough to provide a registration of perceptual nuance that was human like or better.

All this in place, and you still would be infinitely away from a truly human replication. For even in the most mundane of my thoughts and feeling about the world,stirring this coffee on my desk, there is caring and its objective correlative, value. I am interested in the outcome; I care.

Make an AI that can do this, and you are god.
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GgabandAlex:
To create AI we must input information first, and then allow said AI system to interpret and build off of that information. This is not an individual entity, but instead a collection of data.
It is more than a collection of data, it is processing, analyzing, and completing tasks based on that data. All of this is done by following initial rules and self-learning. I see no reason not to think of it as an individual entity or a network or hive of individual entities that form a larger individual entity.
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