It is perhaps not a coincidence that people argue so forcefully against both God and free will. The stoics also said that our rational faculty of choice was a piece of God within us, and Descartes 'proved' God to himself with similar reasoning.Newme wrote: ↑July 12th, 2018, 10:42 am“All have faith, but not all are conscious of having faith.”
Sorry but I find it difficult to take you seriously when you state, “God is an impossibility.” The bible defines God as Love. How logical is it to claim, “Love is an impossibility”? God is also biblically written to be experienced within us: “The kingdom of God is within you.” How logical is it to state that “Experiencing God within you is an impossibility”?
Spectrum, looks like you need to go back to the drawing board, even if you’ve been working on this “God is an impossibility” work, for years. That is, unless it’s become too dogmatic for you.
The determination of those opposing God and free will, when no real proof or disproof is at hand, does remind me of people of excessive faith. In arguing against God, are they in fact turning God back against God in the process? I don't know. In the case of free will, I do believe they are turning their self back against itself.
Why is it so hard to admit there are things we simply don't know? I'm on the fence about God, but I do believe in free will, and that does seem to leave the door open for God, at least a bit.
Yes, it would mean they have come to believe their own lie. If this proves them insane, then maybe we had better get busy building asylums. My gut tells me the delusion may never be 100% complete, and that deep down everyone knows what they believe to be the truth about any issue. They may be deep in denial, rather than having successfully fooled themselves. As soon as they quit making the effort to deny the truth, it should come back to the surface.
As a Bengals fan, this hits much too close to home. Fortunately, though, THIS is the year they will put it all together...Greta wrote: ↑July 12th, 2018, 10:55 pmOkay team, we are going to WIN this time!
WE WILL WIN!
WE WILL WIN!
Better! It doesn't matter if we haven't won a game since 2008! It doesn't matter that the overpaid opposition hasn't lost at home since 1973! WE WILL WIN THIS TIME!
WE WILL WIN!! WE WILL WIN!! WE WILL WIN!!!
Then they lose 6-0 after being completely dominated. Yet would it be rational to accept a ritual slaughter? After all, they might have been lucky.