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Can man become civilised

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GE Morton
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Re: Can man become civilised

Post by GE Morton » January 5th, 2019, 11:09 pm

Belindi wrote:
January 5th, 2019, 8:31 am

As for conflating 'civilisation' with 'urbanisation' : the need for families to get together for communal agricultural and technological efforts and defence caused civilisation but not what we commonly call urbanisation.
Yes, it did. "Civilization" is derived from the Latin civitas, for "city." A civilization is a society characterized by cities --- a "city" being a community so large that most of its residents don't know most of the others. I.e., they are societies of strangers.

The development of agriculture spurred two huge changes in human societies. It forced abandonment of the nomadic hunter-gatherer lifestyle; crops required attending throughout the year, and thus permanent settlements. And because (when successful) it produced a surplus of food, some workers were freed to develop other skills, pursue other arts and crafts, and later, establish trade with other settlements, which drew more strangers to the community.

At least, that's the standard story.

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Re: Can man become civilised

Post by Belindi » January 6th, 2019, 7:26 pm

I've never been in America however all I have heard about North America makes me believe that individualism (as contrasted with clinging to old tribal traditions) is very much accepted and lauded not only in Hollywood myth but among present day Americans and Canadians. I 'd say that special societies like the Amish are the exceptions that prove the rule.

I'll concede about 'civilisation' and 'urbanisation'. It probably doesn't matter very much which word is used, and I note the OP's definition.

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