gad-fly wrote: ↑March 24th, 2021, 11:55 am
Burning ghost wrote: ↑March 23rd, 2021, 9:18 pm
Is there worth in believing/thinking life had no worth?
As you have pointed out, this is a stupid question. Actually a lame excuse to avoid answering, but haughtily challenging the right to pose the question, or arguing for argument's sake.
Worth is identified with value. If the human race cannot make the earth better, it has no worth (or value) to exist IN THIS RESPECT. However, making the earth better is not the only consideration. The same applies to suffering and sensual pleasure. Hence the topic is raised by me.
I literally just answered the questions above? The other guy insisted on specific instances (something you explicitly pointed out on the first page as not what you were looking for).
At some point pain and suffering can overwhelm the will to die. I don’t think ‘wishing to die’ or even ‘euthanasia’ are examples of someone believing that life isn’t worth living. As your question was general - and you made it explicit that it was general rather than looking for anecdotal evidence - I simply reflected the question back on itself?
Why you so upset? Because I also pointed out that humans are generally quite stupid a lot of the time? I like humans
It wasn’t a slight on the species just a simple fact that helps us dream beyond our dreams and try what seems impossible.
Life without pain or suffering is no decent life at all as far as I’m concerned. Stagnation and purposefully clinging to ignorance merely narrows human experience and makes people numb.
The lyrics to ‘Wish you were here’ sum it for me:
So, so you think you can tell
Heaven from hell?
Blue skies from pain?
Can you tell a green field
From a cold steel rail?
A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?
Did they get you to trade
Your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change?
Did you exchange
A walk-on part in the war
For a leading role in a cage?
I don’t see how anyone has any right to claim that life - in general - is or isn’t worth living. I think it makes zero sense to think/believe that life isn’t worth living IN GENERAL.
If you have some follow up questions and/or wish to express your thoughts/answers great. Maybe some other line of questioning would be useful.