No doubt. The reality is that caring for your children appropriately requires a certain amount of selflessness. A significant number of folks are completely selfish, which if single and childless is perfectly fine.popeye1945 wrote: ↑July 23rd, 2021, 2:27 pm LuckyR,
Agreed, but the sacredness of the family is powerful idea. When the environment of the family is an unhealthy one the child is doomed, betrayed in the cradle so to speak. Many families fail to realize that their function is to prepare the child to meet the world with adequate knowledge and training so the child is not lost in the wilderness.
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If only good parents could raise children, I certainly think the world would be improved in many aspects, ranging from masses having similar priorities to reaching alignment quickly on key issues via healthy channels. Heck, traffic would probably be much more bearable.
However, I do not think this would make the world a better place. More harmonious, certainly, though I feel it is our failures as people, parents, and communities that also create the same hurdles that inspire us to improve. Although tragedy and injustice is certainly unwelcome, and people do not consistently create good things in their passing, the relatively fewer good things that are produced from tribulations are more wonderful than if they had come about without hardship.
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No one said anything about avoiding hardship since hardship is unavoidable, whether one has good or crappy parents. Rather I am seeking to avoid damaged children who grow into damaged adults due to crappy parenting.Haliaeetus wrote: ↑August 22nd, 2021, 2:08 amIf only good parents could raise children, I certainly think the world would be improved in many aspects, ranging from masses having similar priorities to reaching alignment quickly on key issues via healthy channels. Heck, traffic would probably be much more bearable.
However, I do not think this would make the world a better place. More harmonious, certainly, though I feel it is our failures as people, parents, and communities that also create the same hurdles that inspire us to improve. Although tragedy and injustice is certainly unwelcome, and people do not consistently create good things in their passing, the relatively fewer good things that are produced from tribulations are more wonderful than if they had come about without hardship.
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I do not follow. If you remove “damaged children/adults” from the world, how would this make the world “better”?LuckyR wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 2:40 amNo one said anything about avoiding hardship since hardship is unavoidable, whether one has good or crappy parents. Rather I am seeking to avoid damaged children who grow into damaged adults due to crappy parenting.Haliaeetus wrote: ↑August 22nd, 2021, 2:08 amIf only good parents could raise children, I certainly think the world would be improved in many aspects, ranging from masses having similar priorities to reaching alignment quickly on key issues via healthy channels. Heck, traffic would probably be much more bearable.
However, I do not think this would make the world a better place. More harmonious, certainly, though I feel it is our failures as people, parents, and communities that also create the same hurdles that inspire us to improve. Although tragedy and injustice is certainly unwelcome, and people do not consistently create good things in their passing, the relatively fewer good things that are produced from tribulations are more wonderful than if they had come about without hardship.
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I think the aim is to avoid/remove the damage, not the children.Haliaeetus wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 9:28 amI do not follow. If you remove “damaged children/adults” from the world, how would this make the world “better”?
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Actually if crappy parents choose not to have children there wouldn't be damage or children. Less damage, less children. Though you are correct, it wouldn't be a case of removing children, they would never have been conceived in the first place.Pattern-chaser wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 12:23 pmI think the aim is to avoid/remove the damage, not the children.Haliaeetus wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2021, 9:28 amI do not follow. If you remove “damaged children/adults” from the world, how would this make the world “better”?
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