An innocent mind vs a Burdened mind

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An innocent mind vs a Burdened mind

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Why does the brain not keep its quality of sharpness, clarity, deep energy? As it gets older, it clearly deteriorates. This happens even at the age of twenty. You can see that certain minds, even though they are quite young, have already lost this quality of freshness, swiftness. Such mind are reactive, rancorous hostile, bitter, competitive, violent, acrimonious so on and so forth. People are washed up even at such a young age. Even though they may be chronologically young but have already lost the quality of freshness and swiftness. They are already caught in a groove and the deteriorating factor has already begun.

It seems innocence is freedom from the burden of experience. A freedom from the accumulated residual memories of pleasures and sorrows. It is the memory of the experience that corrupts, not the experiencing itself. Therefore knowledge, which is the burden of the past, corrupts.

From this accumulation of knowledge there is continuous effort to become. One is this today but would like to be that tomorrow. Obviously this psychological becoming is also another corrupting factor.

An innocent mind, a fresh mind, is a mind which is not cluttered up with the known. An innocent mind is a mind which functions in the unknown, and dying to the known is the door to the unknown. The unknown is not measurable by the known. Time cannot measure that which is beyond time. When we try to measure something which is not measurable….it seems we get caught up in knowledge and beliefs. And then there is a need to defend those beliefs resulting in the character defects listed in para 1.

An innocent mind isn't a mind that lacks experiences/information (as in a child), but a mind that doesn't carry over the marks of those experiences (as in child-like).
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Continuing from OP:

The lover of wisdom is then faced with a radical question, is it possible to have a mind that does not carry over the psychological marks of yesterdays (whether it was the day before, or the past of 10000 years), which is nothing but a bundle and the burden of the known. Can it meet the new without the burden of the old.
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Skyblack wrote: June 23rd, 2021, 5:40 pm Why does the brain not keep its quality of sharpness, clarity, deep energy? As it gets older, it clearly deteriorates. This happens even at the age of twenty.
Because humans evolved for survival not for wisdom, and in prehistoric times it was largely unnecessary to keep learning new things after the first 10-20 years of age?

Will you present a theory where we need to be fully unaffected by the known, in order to be able to dive into the unknown and receive some kind of divine wisdom?
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Skyblack wrote: June 23rd, 2021, 6:20 pm Continuing from OP:

The lover of wisdom is then faced with a radical question, is it possible to have a mind that does not carry over the psychological marks of yesterdays (whether it was the day before, or the past of 10000 years), which is nothing but a bundle and the burden of the known. Can it meet the new without the burden of the old.
I suppose various folks will use the word wisdom differently, and you are free to use whatever definition you want, but a very common meaning specifically stems from experience, that is what has been learned over much time.
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To continue from what was said before:

When the lover of wisdom asks the question, "is it possible to have a mind that does not carry over the psychological marks of yesterdays (whether it was the day before, or the past of 10000 years), which is nothing but a bundle and the burden of the known. Can it meet the new without the burden of the old",

he or she is faced with another question, can the mind die everyday so that it's free, fresh, sensitive, innocent, tender, gentle? Can it die to the flatteries, to the images one has built (about oneself, of others, and of society), to the hurts, to the reactions, to the hostility, to the bitterness, to the violence, to the acrimony? Unless there is death of all that how can there be renewal? How can there be the silence in which creation happens? Not the contrived silence induced when there is an absence of noise. That's a relatively small affair. But the silence that's even beyond an absence of noise.
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