When a secret is no longer one

[WanderingGaze22]

When should a secret not be a secret? Are they truly lies we tell to prevent everyone from seeing the person we hide or are they truths not ready to be revealed? Why does it hurt as much to disclose as it is to keep it in? Where is the line between forever hurting and forever changed? Think about these questions as well as how this affects trust.

[Pattern-chaser]

This OP seems to ask a question that has been asked in philosophy forums for some time: is it ever OK to lie?

If that is so, then we tend to find that lying is not desirable, in general, but that there are certain, quite specific, circumstances where it might well be justified. But maybe this topic will discover something different?

[Sculptor1]

When should a secret not be a secret? Are they truly lies we tell to prevent everyone from seeing the person we hide or are they truths not ready to be revealed? Why does it hurt as much to disclose as it is to keep it in? Where is the line between forever hurting and forever changed? Think about these questions as well as how this affects trust.

This is not really a question.
There is no such thing as a "secret" except that it is a label for a thing concealed. It says nothing about the content of the occulusion. Without knowing the reasons for the secrecy and the context concealed, there is no way to ask your question because it is not about anything.

[Ecurb]

When should a secret not be a secret? Are they truly lies we tell to prevent everyone from seeing the person we hide or are they truths not ready to be revealed? Why does it hurt as much to disclose as it is to keep it in? Where is the line between forever hurting and forever changed? Think about these questions as well as how this affects trust.

Secret promises, whispered across a pillow, are not legally binding. Public vows made before "God and this company" are. Keep that in mind before jumping into anything you might regret.

[LuckyR]

When should a secret not be a secret? Are they truly lies we tell to prevent everyone from seeing the person we hide or are they truths not ready to be revealed? Why does it hurt as much to disclose as it is to keep it in? Where is the line between forever hurting and forever changed? Think about these questions as well as how this affects trust.

Well, what is the essence of a secret? It has nothing to do with lying nor truthtelling. A secret is just information not to be rebroadcasted. If the issue is when should one break a promise of secrecy, the answer is when more harm will occur with keeping the secret than breaking the promise. There is an implied subtext to a request for secrecy, that is that the secret is worth keeping. If the person requesting secrecy breaks this, the secret keeper is under no obligation to keep the contract, as it was broken by the other party.

[WanderingGaze22]

When should a secret not be a secret? Are they truly lies we tell to prevent everyone from seeing the person we hide or are they truths not ready to be revealed? Why does it hurt as much to disclose as it is to keep it in? Where is the line between forever hurting and forever changed? Think about these questions as well as how this affects trust.

Secret promises, whispered across a pillow, are not legally binding. Public vows made before "God and this company" are. Keep that in mind before jumping into anything you might regret.

Apologies, I meant choosing to keep a secret vs disclosing immediately.

[Levimacey]

secrets are hidden information sometimes to preserve an individual from something that may cause harm or pain to others, they can also be a protection for someone else as a form of personal trust or loyalty. some times its for deceit or to manipulate for personal gain, ever way secrets have the potential if keep knowingly generally cause some form of upset. However some secrets may well need to be kept to protect others from danger as well self protection in life or death. In general, i would say that secrets are a form of contract, with ever one self or between more than one party, these contracts are a form of trust and loyalty or self preservation, for me secrets among people are generally deceitful or for personal gain or evil and cause much pain and grief.

However in the world of academic study we find historical secrets of information lost over time, and through investigation we find these historical secrets that influence our academic fields, a prime example of this is archaeology, were secrets lye within discovery's. Theses secrets are not kept because of loyalty or any form of trust, these secret's were in some cases to protect future generation to understand the world that has long past. Some of these secrets have influenced our academic filed like religion, with the discovery of the dead sea scrolls or the discovery of the gospel of Barnaba's or the tombs in Egypt, all of witch have meany secrets within there discoveries. These secrets have gone on to be very influential in giving information about meany aspect of our world, previous society's, morals, ethics as well philosophy, anthropology, enography just to name a few.

[AmosMorrison]

We all have secrets, it's no secret. Maintaining them can be exhausting, but not for the reasons that most scholars have assumed for a long time. People claimed they thought about their secrets twice as much while not talking with anyone as they did when they were actively concealing them in conversation. The more frequently their minds went to a secret, the more they claimed it harmed their well-being and the less healthy they claimed they were. The more critical the secret, the more difficult it is to keep. Teenagers who confide in an adult they trust have fewer health issues, loneliness, and sadness. Multiple studies demonstrate that writing about a painful experience might increase the immune system, which is evidence in favor of disclosure.
One of the reasons maintaining secrets is so difficult is that secrets, like unwelcome ideas, take up more brain space the more one attempts to avoid thinking about them. However, not everyone is subject to this self-defeating loop

[LuckyR]

We all have secrets, it's no secret. Maintaining them can be exhausting, but not for the reasons that most scholars have assumed for a long time. People claimed they thought about their secrets twice as much while not talking with anyone as they did when they were actively concealing them in conversation. The more frequently their minds went to a secret, the more they claimed it harmed their well-being and the less healthy they claimed they were. The more critical the secret, the more difficult it is to keep. Teenagers who confide in an adult they trust have fewer health issues, loneliness, and sadness. Multiple studies demonstrate that writing about a painful experience might increase the immune system, which is evidence in favor of disclosure.
One of the reasons maintaining secrets is so difficult is that secrets, like unwelcome ideas, take up more brain space the more one attempts to avoid thinking about them. However, not everyone is subject to this self-defeating loop

You can't know the difficulty of keeping a secret without considering whether keeping the secret requires lying or not.

[WanderingGaze22]

You can't know the difficulty of keeping a secret without considering whether keeping the secret requires lying or not.

True but at the same time, when the opportunity to have a secret occurs, we have moments to decide whether the event should be a secret or made public. What factors play into our decisiveness? Do we think about how the secret can affect the people long term or hold it in until the end of time?

[LuckyR]

You can't know the difficulty of keeping a secret without considering whether keeping the secret requires lying or not.

True but at the same time, when the opportunity to have a secret occurs, we have moments to decide whether the event should be a secret or made public. What factors play into our decisiveness? Do we think about how the secret can affect the people long term or hold it in until the end of time?

Not in my experience. Most events are kept secret due to the short-term convenience of avoiding difficult conversations or embarrassment.

[AmosMorrison]

We all have secrets, it's no secret. Maintaining them can be exhausting, but not for the reasons that most scholars have assumed for a long time. People claimed they thought about their secrets twice as much while not talking with anyone as they did when they were actively concealing them in conversation. The more frequently their minds went to a secret, the more they claimed it harmed their well-being and the less healthy they claimed they were. The more critical the secret, the more difficult it is to keep. Teenagers who confide in an adult they trust have fewer health issues, loneliness, and sadness. Multiple studies demonstrate that writing about a painful experience might increase the immune system, which is evidence in favor of disclosure.
One of the reasons maintaining secrets is so difficult is that secrets, like unwelcome ideas, take up more brain space the more one attempts to avoid thinking about them. However, not everyone is subject to this self-defeating loop

You can't know the difficulty of keeping a secret without considering whether keeping the secret requires lying or not.

So do you want to tell me "how to keep a secret without considering whether keeping it requires secrecy?"

[LuckyR]

We all have secrets, it's no secret. Maintaining them can be exhausting, but not for the reasons that most scholars have assumed for a long time. People claimed they thought about their secrets twice as much while not talking with anyone as they did when they were actively concealing them in conversation. The more frequently their minds went to a secret, the more they claimed it harmed their well-being and the less healthy they claimed they were. The more critical the secret, the more difficult it is to keep. Teenagers who confide in an adult they trust have fewer health issues, loneliness, and sadness. Multiple studies demonstrate that writing about a painful experience might increase the immune system, which is evidence in favor of disclosure.
One of the reasons maintaining secrets is so difficult is that secrets, like unwelcome ideas, take up more brain space the more one attempts to avoid thinking about them. However, not everyone is subject to this self-defeating loop

You can't know the difficulty of keeping a secret without considering whether keeping the secret requires lying or not.

So do you want to tell me "how to keep a secret without considering whether keeping it requires secrecy?"

Whom are you quoting?

[AmosMorrison]

We all have secrets, it's no secret. Maintaining them can be exhausting, but not for the reasons that most scholars have assumed for a long time. People claimed they thought about their secrets twice as much while not talking with anyone as they did when they were actively concealing them in conversation. The more frequently their minds went to a secret, the more they claimed it harmed their well-being and the less healthy they claimed they were. The more critical the secret, the more difficult it is to keep. Teenagers who confide in an adult they trust have fewer health issues, loneliness, and sadness. Multiple studies demonstrate that writing about a painful experience might increase the immune system, which is evidence in favor of disclosure.
One of the reasons maintaining secrets is so difficult is that secrets, like unwelcome ideas, take up more brain space the more one attempts to avoid thinking about them. However, not everyone is subject to this self-defeating loop

You can't know the difficulty of keeping a secret without considering whether keeping the secret requires lying or not.

So do you want to tell me "how to keep a secret without considering whether keeping it requires secrecy?"

Whom are you quoting?

Ofcourse you LuckyR

[LuckyR]

You can't know the difficultly of keeping a secret without considering whether keeping the secret requires lying or not.

So do you want to tell me "how to keep a secret without considering whether keeping it requires secrecy?"

Whom are you quoting?

Ofcourse you @LuckyR

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