Too Fast and Furious?
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Too Fast and Furious?
The point is in light of self-driving cars being a reality, how influential will it be on the statistics of victims of road rage? Will there be an increase or a decrease? Then there's the driving under the influence aspect. Do you believe the technology behind fully automated cars will eventually lead to recklessness and therefore more blame on the engineers who make these vehicles? Debate pros and cons as well as auto accidents of any kind on a yearly basis before answering these questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_r5UJrxcck
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If the current era (no driveless cars) is the baseline, there will be a transition period with both driveless and regular cars and finally there will be a driverless car era. In the transition period several things will happen: there will be fewer cars on the road, traffic will move slower ie there will be more traffic jams, there will be an almost insignificant decrease in car accidents and fatalities. More passengers will be drunk or on drugs, but fewer drivers will be impaired.WanderingGaze22 wrote: ↑November 13th, 2021, 2:40 am Road rage is universal. No one is spared and no one is not guilty of it. Vehicles can and are classified as weapons. With the right one and enough speed, you can make a hole in just about anything. Cars 50 years ago are absolute deathtraps compared to the ones made 30 years ago. The link below shows a crash test outside and inside the vehicle. Within two, three years tops, more than 38% of the cars on a highway on a daily basis will be driving on their own. The Fast and Furious franchise has shown us what a car is capable of.
The point is in light of self-driving cars being a reality, how influential will it be on the statistics of victims of road rage? Will there be an increase or a decrease? Then there's the driving under the influence aspect. Do you believe the technology behind fully automated cars will eventually lead to recklessness and therefore more blame on the engineers who make these vehicles? Debate pros and cons as well as auto accidents of any kind on a yearly basis before answering these questions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_r5UJrxcck
After (essentially) all cars are driverless, even fewer cars will be on the road, traffic will suddenly move much faster and more efficiently, the number of accidents will plummet and impaired passengers will skyrocket.
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THe most innovative and I believe most effective means of road safety, that I have ever heard of, would be to include and six inch spike extending out of the steering column pointing directly at the heart of the driver.WanderingGaze22 wrote: ↑November 13th, 2021, 2:40 am Road rage is universal. No one is spared and no one is not guilty of it. Vehicles can and are classified as weapons. With the right one and enough speed, you can make a hole in just about anything. Cars 50 years ago are absolute deathtraps compared to the ones made 30 years ago. The link below shows a crash test outside and inside the vehicle. Within two, three years tops, more than 38% of the cars on a highway on a daily basis will be driving on their own. The Fast and Furious franchise has shown us what a car is capable of.
The point is in light of self-driving cars being a reality, how influential will it be on the statistics of victims of road rage? Will there be an increase or a decrease? Then there's the driving under the influence aspect. Do you believe the technology behind fully automated cars will eventually lead to recklessness and therefore more blame on the engineers who make these vehicles? Debate pros and cons as well as auto accidents of any kind on a yearly basis before answering these questions.
I guarentee that any driver facing the constant threat of death would definietly drive with more care.
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Definitely sounds innovative. Probably would result in less accidents, but more fatalities. Doesn't meet my definition of safety.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑November 13th, 2021, 1:32 pmTHe most innovative and I believe most effective means of road safety, that I have ever heard of, would be to include and six inch spike extending out of the steering column pointing directly at the heart of the driver.WanderingGaze22 wrote: ↑November 13th, 2021, 2:40 am Road rage is universal. No one is spared and no one is not guilty of it. Vehicles can and are classified as weapons. With the right one and enough speed, you can make a hole in just about anything. Cars 50 years ago are absolute deathtraps compared to the ones made 30 years ago. The link below shows a crash test outside and inside the vehicle. Within two, three years tops, more than 38% of the cars on a highway on a daily basis will be driving on their own. The Fast and Furious franchise has shown us what a car is capable of.
The point is in light of self-driving cars being a reality, how influential will it be on the statistics of victims of road rage? Will there be an increase or a decrease? Then there's the driving under the influence aspect. Do you believe the technology behind fully automated cars will eventually lead to recklessness and therefore more blame on the engineers who make these vehicles? Debate pros and cons as well as auto accidents of any kind on a yearly basis before answering these questions.
I guarentee that any driver facing the constant threat of death would definietly drive with more care.
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We can agree that people may take quite a long time to adjust. Sure, it helps to prevent distractions and ultimately being aware is a choice with less consequences, but of course this means that people will try what has never been tried before from the silly to the reckless. Who knows what measures will be taken for the future.LuckyR wrote: If the current era (no driveless cars) is the baseline, there will be a transition period with both driveless and regular cars and finally there will be a driverless car era. In the transition period several things will happen: there will be fewer cars on the road, traffic will move slower ie there will be more traffic jams, there will be an almost insignificant decrease in car accidents and fatalities. More passengers will be drunk or on drugs, but fewer drivers will be impaired.
After (essentially) all cars are driverless, even fewer cars will be on the road, traffic will suddenly move much faster and more efficiently, the number of accidents will plummet and impaired passengers will skyrocket.
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Many will agree on this fact. And would want assurance on what will be done about this.LuckyR wrote: ↑November 14th, 2021, 2:19 amDefinitely sounds innovative. Probably would result in less accidents, but more fatalities. Doesn't meet my definition of safety.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑November 13th, 2021, 1:32 pmTHe most innovative and I believe most effective means of road safety, that I have ever heard of, would be to include and six inch spike extending out of the steering column pointing directly at the heart of the driver.WanderingGaze22 wrote: ↑November 13th, 2021, 2:40 am Road rage is universal. No one is spared and no one is not guilty of it. Vehicles can and are classified as weapons. With the right one and enough speed, you can make a hole in just about anything. Cars 50 years ago are absolute deathtraps compared to the ones made 30 years ago. The link below shows a crash test outside and inside the vehicle. Within two, three years tops, more than 38% of the cars on a highway on a daily basis will be driving on their own. The Fast and Furious franchise has shown us what a car is capable of.
The point is in light of self-driving cars being a reality, how influential will it be on the statistics of victims of road rage? Will there be an increase or a decrease? Then there's the driving under the influence aspect. Do you believe the technology behind fully automated cars will eventually lead to recklessness and therefore more blame on the engineers who make these vehicles? Debate pros and cons as well as auto accidents of any kind on a yearly basis before answering these questions.
I guarentee that any driver facing the constant threat of death would definietly drive with more care.
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I don't think it will take much time at all, relatively speaking. Since I enjoy driving, as opposed to being transported, I will be an extremely late adopter.WanderingGaze22 wrote: ↑November 14th, 2021, 2:37 amWe can agree that people may take quite a long time to adjust. Sure, it helps to prevent distractions and ultimately being aware is a choice with less consequences, but of course this means that people will try what has never been tried before from the silly to the reckless. Who knows what measures will be taken for the future.LuckyR wrote: If the current era (no driveless cars) is the baseline, there will be a transition period with both driveless and regular cars and finally there will be a driverless car era. In the transition period several things will happen: there will be fewer cars on the road, traffic will move slower ie there will be more traffic jams, there will be an almost insignificant decrease in car accidents and fatalities. More passengers will be drunk or on drugs, but fewer drivers will be impaired.
After (essentially) all cars are driverless, even fewer cars will be on the road, traffic will suddenly move much faster and more efficiently, the number of accidents will plummet and impaired passengers will skyrocket.
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If every car had one, there would be very few accidents or fatalities.LuckyR wrote: ↑November 14th, 2021, 2:19 amDefinitely sounds innovative. Probably would result in less accidents, but more fatalities. Doesn't meet my definition of safety.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑November 13th, 2021, 1:32 pmTHe most innovative and I believe most effective means of road safety, that I have ever heard of, would be to include and six inch spike extending out of the steering column pointing directly at the heart of the driver.WanderingGaze22 wrote: ↑November 13th, 2021, 2:40 am Road rage is universal. No one is spared and no one is not guilty of it. Vehicles can and are classified as weapons. With the right one and enough speed, you can make a hole in just about anything. Cars 50 years ago are absolute deathtraps compared to the ones made 30 years ago. The link below shows a crash test outside and inside the vehicle. Within two, three years tops, more than 38% of the cars on a highway on a daily basis will be driving on their own. The Fast and Furious franchise has shown us what a car is capable of.
The point is in light of self-driving cars being a reality, how influential will it be on the statistics of victims of road rage? Will there be an increase or a decrease? Then there's the driving under the influence aspect. Do you believe the technology behind fully automated cars will eventually lead to recklessness and therefore more blame on the engineers who make these vehicles? Debate pros and cons as well as auto accidents of any kind on a yearly basis before answering these questions.
I guarentee that any driver facing the constant threat of death would definietly drive with more care.
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Is any person seriously considering a system where they get stabbed in the chest when they sneeze while driving?Sculptor1 wrote: ↑November 14th, 2021, 7:40 amIf every car had one, there would be very few accidents or fatalities.LuckyR wrote: ↑November 14th, 2021, 2:19 amDefinitely sounds innovative. Probably would result in less accidents, but more fatalities. Doesn't meet my definition of safety.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑November 13th, 2021, 1:32 pmTHe most innovative and I believe most effective means of road safety, that I have ever heard of, would be to include and six inch spike extending out of the steering column pointing directly at the heart of the driver.WanderingGaze22 wrote: ↑November 13th, 2021, 2:40 am Road rage is universal. No one is spared and no one is not guilty of it. Vehicles can and are classified as weapons. With the right one and enough speed, you can make a hole in just about anything. Cars 50 years ago are absolute deathtraps compared to the ones made 30 years ago. The link below shows a crash test outside and inside the vehicle. Within two, three years tops, more than 38% of the cars on a highway on a daily basis will be driving on their own. The Fast and Furious franchise has shown us what a car is capable of.
The point is in light of self-driving cars being a reality, how influential will it be on the statistics of victims of road rage? Will there be an increase or a decrease? Then there's the driving under the influence aspect. Do you believe the technology behind fully automated cars will eventually lead to recklessness and therefore more blame on the engineers who make these vehicles? Debate pros and cons as well as auto accidents of any kind on a yearly basis before answering these questions.
I guarentee that any driver facing the constant threat of death would definietly drive with more care.
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Once the number of people who agree with you (myself included) reaches 30,000, I imagine we can still vie for regular cars.LuckyR wrote: ↑November 14th, 2021, 2:48 amI don't think it will take much time at all, relatively speaking. Since I enjoy driving, as opposed to being transported, I will be an extremely late adopter.WanderingGaze22 wrote: ↑November 14th, 2021, 2:37 amWe can agree that people may take quite a long time to adjust. Sure, it helps to prevent distractions and ultimately being aware is a choice with less consequences, but of course this means that people will try what has never been tried before from the silly to the reckless. Who knows what measures will be taken for the future.LuckyR wrote: If the current era (no driveless cars) is the baseline, there will be a transition period with both driveless and regular cars and finally there will be a driverless car era. In the transition period several things will happen: there will be fewer cars on the road, traffic will move slower ie there will be more traffic jams, there will be an almost insignificant decrease in car accidents and fatalities. More passengers will be drunk or on drugs, but fewer drivers will be impaired.
After (essentially) all cars are driverless, even fewer cars will be on the road, traffic will suddenly move much faster and more efficiently, the number of accidents will plummet and impaired passengers will skyrocket.
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My system of sneeze proofLuckyR wrote: ↑November 14th, 2021, 3:39 pmIs any person seriously considering a system where they get stabbed in the chest when they sneeze while driving?Sculptor1 wrote: ↑November 14th, 2021, 7:40 amIf every car had one, there would be very few accidents or fatalities.LuckyR wrote: ↑November 14th, 2021, 2:19 amDefinitely sounds innovative. Probably would result in less accidents, but more fatalities. Doesn't meet my definition of safety.Sculptor1 wrote: ↑November 13th, 2021, 1:32 pm
THe most innovative and I believe most effective means of road safety, that I have ever heard of, would be to include and six inch spike extending out of the steering column pointing directly at the heart of the driver.
I guarentee that any driver facing the constant threat of death would definietly drive with more care.
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I remember reading/hearing about that idea too. Obviously it's tongue-in-cheek, but it does raise an interesting point which, in its most general form, relates to the old "Nature abhors a vacuum" principle. i.e. Things tend to expand to fill the space available and, by analogy, the more safe we feel a system is the more recklessly we'll tend to use it. So our behaviour expands to fill the available, so to speak, safety space. I suppose it's also related to the argument made by the gun lobby in the US that if everyone is always "packing heat" (as I believe the expression goes) then people will generally be more polite to each other (for fear of being shot).Sculptor1 wrote:THe most innovative and I believe most effective means of road safety, that I have ever heard of, would be to include and six inch spike extending out of the steering column pointing directly at the heart of the driver.
I guarentee that any driver facing the constant threat of death would definietly drive with more care.
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It is a psychological truism that extra safety, antilock brakes and helmet use have been documented, leads to more reckless behaviour. This is one of the advantages of self driving cars.Steve3007 wrote: ↑November 15th, 2021, 7:21 amI remember reading/hearing about that idea too. Obviously it's tongue-in-cheek, but it does raise an interesting point which, in its most general form, relates to the old "Nature abhors a vacuum" principle. i.e. Things tend to expand to fill the space available and, by analogy, the more safe we feel a system is the more recklessly we'll tend to use it. So our behaviour expands to fill the available, so to speak, safety space. I suppose it's also related to the argument made by the gun lobby in the US that if everyone is always "packing heat" (as I believe the expression goes) then people will generally be more polite to each other (for fear of being shot).Sculptor1 wrote:THe most innovative and I believe most effective means of road safety, that I have ever heard of, would be to include and six inch spike extending out of the steering column pointing directly at the heart of the driver.
I guarentee that any driver facing the constant threat of death would definietly drive with more care.
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Maybe you should think about the pedestrians too...LuckyR wrote: ↑November 15th, 2021, 1:05 pmIt is a psychological truism that extra safety, antilock brakes and helmet use have been documented, leads to more reckless behaviour. This is one of the advantages of self driving cars.Steve3007 wrote: ↑November 15th, 2021, 7:21 amI remember reading/hearing about that idea too. Obviously it's tongue-in-cheek, but it does raise an interesting point which, in its most general form, relates to the old "Nature abhors a vacuum" principle. i.e. Things tend to expand to fill the space available and, by analogy, the more safe we feel a system is the more recklessly we'll tend to use it. So our behaviour expands to fill the available, so to speak, safety space. I suppose it's also related to the argument made by the gun lobby in the US that if everyone is always "packing heat" (as I believe the expression goes) then people will generally be more polite to each other (for fear of being shot).Sculptor1 wrote:THe most innovative and I believe most effective means of road safety, that I have ever heard of, would be to include and six inch spike extending out of the steering column pointing directly at the heart of the driver.
I guarentee that any driver facing the constant threat of death would definietly drive with more care.
There is a possible problem with unforeseen behavioural changes. In a world where all cars are driverless, people will know that cars always have to yield to pedestrians. This will lead to mayhem since no pedestrian would ever have to worry about crossing the road and would do so with utter impugnity. Imagine the chaos!
Imagine a driverless taxi trying to negotiate the drunks haing fun leaping in front of cars or just deciding to walk in the middle of the road. As it is try driving down Brighton seafront on a Weekend night!
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