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“Our essence of mind is intrinsically pure. If we knew our mind perfectly and realized what our Self-nature truly is, all of us would be enlightened.” (liberated)
Hui Neng
"Know thy Self" is the first maxim inscribed on the temple wall of Apollo at Delphi (ca.450 BC) and made famous by Socrates who said “Knowledge is inherent in man, not outside. Wisdom is to recollect.”
That it made it barely beyond philosophical exercises, is probably because in the Occident developed around the same time the ratio of Dualism which confines Knowledge to operations of the intellect and Self to the Ego-complex.
Being more openminded Oriental, foremost Daoist, Hindu & Buddhist thinkers researched this omnipresent, yet evasive, organism called Mind for more than 2000 years and came – despite their widely varying ways of investigation– to the conclusion that Mind is responsible for All.
The phenomena of existence are in perpetual motion - they manifest instantaneous and contact the senses as flashes of energy - Mind interprets the reactions of the senses.
“What we have called matter is energy whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses” (Albert Einstein)
“It has been stated that during these contacts, both the sense-organ and the object with which it is in contact undergo changes because both are aggregates of particles in movement.
The intensity of the different contacts varies. Only some among them awake an echo in the mind.”
“Secret oral teachings in Tibetan Buddhist Sects” by Alexandra David-Neel
As the energy flashes that contact the senses reach mind at random, its self- and reality constructs are incoherent.
And as the reactions of the mind turn into actions that effect reactions, action/reaction-chains come about, whose endings are unforeseeable and beginnings hard to recall.
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Where and when did he say that?Waechter418 wrote: ↑April 10th, 2022, 3:43 pm “What we have called matter is energy whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses” (Albert Einstein)
Anyway, the m in Einstein's famous formula E = mc2 stands for mass rather than for matter; so it doesn't mean that matter is energy.
See: Misconceptions about Eo=mc2
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There you go. Words and the concepts they express are taken to be reality simply on the basis of them being merely used to express alleged "inner" experience.
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Yes, but what you mean with alleged?stevie wrote: ↑April 12th, 2022, 2:51 amThere you go. Words and the concepts they express are taken to be reality simply on the basis of them being merely used to express alleged "inner" experience.
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"alleged" refers to "inner", "experience" and the example experience "pain" you brought up and it refers to these in the context of "taken to be reality". "alleged" does not deny mere appearances.Raymond wrote: ↑April 12th, 2022, 2:57 amYes, but what you mean with alleged?stevie wrote: ↑April 12th, 2022, 2:51 amThere you go. Words and the concepts they express are taken to be reality simply on the basis of them being merely used to express alleged "inner" experience.
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What is a mere appearance? Ain't an appearance real?stevie wrote: ↑April 12th, 2022, 3:27 am"alleged" refers to "inner", "experience" and the example experience "pain" you brought up and it refers to these in the context of "taken to be reality". "alleged" does not deny mere appearances.
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The "mere" in the expression "mere appearance" is only a linguistic device to express "appearance" without adding any conceptual fabrication to it that isn't there when the appearance appears. That means: an appearance is what appears independent of you asking "Is it real?" or asking "Is it unreal?" or believing "This appearance is real" or believing "This appearance is unreal."Raymond wrote: ↑April 14th, 2022, 3:15 amWhat is a mere appearance? Ain't an appearance real?
An appearance does not depend on your conceptual judgements "real", "unreal" or any other judgement because it merely appears.
Thus e.g. the skeptics say:
we are not raising a question about the appearance but rather about what is said about the appearance
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The word "appearance" is ambiguous between "something appearing" ("that which appears") and "appearing of something". The appearing of something is a perceptual experience. However, no experience is an appearance unless there is something appearing (which is not the experience itself); so hallucinatory experiences aren't appearances, because there is nothing which appears. Hallucination is pseudo-perception, so what we have in this case is mere semblance that falsely seems to be a perceptual experience of something. Nonetheless, all sensory appearances or semblances are real experiences. In the case of hallucination, the hallucinating is real and the hallucinated is not.
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Yes. The dream is real but everything dreamt a mere dream. Still the dream tells us things about reality. Mind is real. The things though of in your mind are not real but tell you things about the world.Consul wrote: ↑April 14th, 2022, 3:11 pmThe word "appearance" is ambiguous between "something appearing" ("that which appears") and "appearing of something". The appearing of something is a perceptual experience. However, no experience is an appearance unless there is something appearing (which is not the experience itself); so hallucinatory experiences aren't appearances, because there is nothing which appears. Hallucination is pseudo-perception, so what we have in this case is mere semblance that falsely seems to be a perceptual experience of something. Nonetheless, all sensory appearances or semblances are real experiences. In the case of hallucination, the hallucinating is real and the hallucinated is not.
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