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I thought I should launch a topic after such a long time. It's a stupid thought because why shouldn't I have launched a topic on July 28th, 2021 or January 10th, 2022 or ... why now? Of course it's just one of these nonsensical thoughts.
But why this thought and not another? And why "nonsensical"? What is the criterion of "nonsensical"? Why thoughts at all?
Well, that kind of thoughts happen to me. But ... do these thoughts really happen "to me"?
Nevermind. Such things happen if one intends to launch a topic without having the intention to lauch a topic.
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I am glad to see that you have launched a topic and it may be that the thoughts which happen in your mind, as opposed to, say, for example, my mind is an important question. Where do thoughts come from and what predisposed each person to have certain trains and tendencies of thoughts. It may be the zone between philosophy and psychology, and the cognitive behavioral thinkers suggest habitual thought patterns, but why? Are thoughts random or is there an underlying order which may go back to nature or nurture, in the processing of experiences? What thoughts are nonsense and what make sense? It may be partly about what works for the individual and how thoughts are regarded by others? But, is that an objective enough distinction of clear thinking or nonsense as a category of thought?stevie wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 6:16 pm stevie. Joined: July 19th, 2021, 11:08 am.
I thought I should launch a topic after such a long time. It's a stupid thought because why shouldn't I have launched a topic on July 28th, 2021 or January 10th, 2022 or ... why now? Of course it's just one of these nonsensical thoughts.
But why this thought and not another? And why "nonsensical"? What is the criterion of "nonsensical"? Why thoughts at all?
Well, that kind of thoughts happen to me. But ... do these thoughts really happen "to me"?
Nevermind. Such things happen if one intends to launch a topic without having the intention to lauch a topic.
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As far as I am concerned I can clearly state that the thoughts that happen to me appear to originate from conditioning through earlier reading, hearing, thinking ... it's connected with language learning and applied language through reading, hearing, conceptual thinkingJackDaydream wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 6:40 pmI am glad to see that you have launched a topic and it may be that the thoughts which happen in your mind, as opposed to, say, for example, my mind is an important question. Where do thoughts come from and what predisposed each person to have certain trains and tendencies of thoughts. It may be the zone between philosophy and psychology, and the cognitive behavioral thinkers suggest habitual thought patterns, but why? Are thoughts random or is there an underlying order which may go back to nature or nurture, in the processing of experiences? What thoughts are nonsense and what make sense? It may be partly about what works for the individual and how thoughts are regarded by others? But, is that an objective enough distinction of clear thinking or nonsense as a category of thought?stevie wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 6:16 pm stevie. Joined: July 19th, 2021, 11:08 am.
I thought I should launch a topic after such a long time. It's a stupid thought because why shouldn't I have launched a topic on July 28th, 2021 or January 10th, 2022 or ... why now? Of course it's just one of these nonsensical thoughts.
But why this thought and not another? And why "nonsensical"? What is the criterion of "nonsensical"? Why thoughts at all?
Well, that kind of thoughts happen to me. But ... do these thoughts really happen "to me"?
Nevermind. Such things happen if one intends to launch a topic without having the intention to lauch a topic.
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What you are saying is most probably true, in the sense that so much of thought is related to what has been learned. But, what about unusual thoughts and images which seem to arise from nowhere? Perhaps, you don't have the experience of such thoughts. There is also the realm of dreams which are like a series of images and thoughts. They can go beyond what has been thought about consciously and it may be about a subliminal aspect to thoughts and, in my thinking, relate to the collective unconscious. I know that you and many others may wish to throw such 'nonsensical' concepts as the collective unconscious into the philosophy rubbish bin.stevie wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 7:05 pmAs far as I am concerned I can clearly state that the thoughts that happen to me appear to originate from conditioning through earlier reading, hearing, thinking ... it's connected with language learning and applied language through reading, hearing, conceptual thinkingJackDaydream wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 6:40 pmI am glad to see that you have launched a topic and it may be that the thoughts which happen in your mind, as opposed to, say, for example, my mind is an important question. Where do thoughts come from and what predisposed each person to have certain trains and tendencies of thoughts. It may be the zone between philosophy and psychology, and the cognitive behavioral thinkers suggest habitual thought patterns, but why? Are thoughts random or is there an underlying order which may go back to nature or nurture, in the processing of experiences? What thoughts are nonsense and what make sense? It may be partly about what works for the individual and how thoughts are regarded by others? But, is that an objective enough distinction of clear thinking or nonsense as a category of thought?stevie wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 6:16 pm stevie. Joined: July 19th, 2021, 11:08 am.
I thought I should launch a topic after such a long time. It's a stupid thought because why shouldn't I have launched a topic on July 28th, 2021 or January 10th, 2022 or ... why now? Of course it's just one of these nonsensical thoughts.
But why this thought and not another? And why "nonsensical"? What is the criterion of "nonsensical"? Why thoughts at all?
Well, that kind of thoughts happen to me. But ... do these thoughts really happen "to me"?
Nevermind. Such things happen if one intends to launch a topic without having the intention to lauch a topic.
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Yes, it seems that i can trace all my thoughts to their origin.JackDaydream wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 7:16 pmWhat you are saying is most probably true, in the sense that so much of thought is related to what has been learned. But, what about unusual thoughts and images which seem to arise from nowhere? Perhaps, you don't have the experience of such thoughts.stevie wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 7:05 pmAs far as I am concerned I can clearly state that the thoughts that happen to me appear to originate from conditioning through earlier reading, hearing, thinking ... it's connected with language learning and applied language through reading, hearing, conceptual thinkingJackDaydream wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 6:40 pmI am glad to see that you have launched a topic and it may be that the thoughts which happen in your mind, as opposed to, say, for example, my mind is an important question. Where do thoughts come from and what predisposed each person to have certain trains and tendencies of thoughts. It may be the zone between philosophy and psychology, and the cognitive behavioral thinkers suggest habitual thought patterns, but why? Are thoughts random or is there an underlying order which may go back to nature or nurture, in the processing of experiences? What thoughts are nonsense and what make sense? It may be partly about what works for the individual and how thoughts are regarded by others? But, is that an objective enough distinction of clear thinking or nonsense as a category of thought?stevie wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 6:16 pm stevie. Joined: July 19th, 2021, 11:08 am.
I thought I should launch a topic after such a long time. It's a stupid thought because why shouldn't I have launched a topic on July 28th, 2021 or January 10th, 2022 or ... why now? Of course it's just one of these nonsensical thoughts.
But why this thought and not another? And why "nonsensical"? What is the criterion of "nonsensical"? Why thoughts at all?
Well, that kind of thoughts happen to me. But ... do these thoughts really happen "to me"?
Nevermind. Such things happen if one intends to launch a topic without having the intention to lauch a topic.
As far as i am concerned "the realm of dreams" is merely a replication of my conceptual learning.JackDaydream wrote: ↑June 15th, 2022, 7:16 pm There is also the realm of dreams which are like a series of images and thoughts. They can go beyond what has been thought about consciously and it may be about a subliminal aspect to thoughts and, in my thinking, relate to the collective unconscious. I know that you and many others may wish to throw such 'nonsensical' concepts as the collective unconscious into the philosophy rubbish bin.
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This question is a good example of such thoughts.
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Nevertheless this brain has been able to produce the expression of these perfectly revealing closing words
This topic can be closed.
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That's interesting. What has been your measure of "being right" and "being wrong"? I mean to judge "I was wrong" you have to have a validated true measure for "right".Alan Masterman wrote: ↑July 7th, 2022, 7:56 am I once had a thought. Turned out I was wrong, though.
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Maybe or maybe not because the issue still stands:
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