A topic

[stevie]

stevie. Joined: July 19th, 2021, 11:08 am.

I thought I should launch a topic after such a long time. It's a stupid thought because why shouldn't I have launched a topic on July 28th, 2021 or January 10th, 2022 or ... why now? Of course it's just one of these nonsensical thoughts.

But why this thought and not another? And why "nonsensical"? What is the criterion of "nonsensical"? Why thoughts at all?

Well, that kind of thoughts happen to me. But ... do these thoughts really happen "to me"?

Nevermind. Such things happen if one intends to launch a topic without having the intention to lauch a topic.

[JackDaydream]

stevie. Joined: July 19th, 2021, 11:08 am.

I thought I should launch a topic after such a long time. It's a stupid thought because why shouldn't I have launched a topic on July 28th, 2021 or January 10th, 2022 or ... why now? Of course it's just one of these nonsensical thoughts.

But why this thought and not another? And why "nonsensical"? What is the criterion of "nonsensical"? Why thoughts at all?

Well, that kind of thoughts happen to me. But ... do these thoughts really happen "to me"?

Nevermind. Such things happen if one intends to launch a topic without having the intention to lauch a topic.

I am glad to see that you have launched a topic and it may be that the thoughts which happen in your mind, as opposed to, say, for example, my mind is an important question. Where do thoughts come from and what predisposed each person to have certain trains and tendencies of thoughts. It may be the zone between philosophy and psychology, and the cognitive behavioral thinkers suggest habitual thought patterns, but why? Are thoughts random or is there an underlying order which may go back to nature or nurture, in the processing of experiences? What thoughts are nonsense and what make sense? It may be partly about what works for the individual and how thoughts are regarded by others? But, is that an objective enough distinction of clear thinking or nonsense as a category of thought?

[stevie]

stevie. Joined: July 19th, 2021, 11:08 am.

I thought I should launch a topic after such a long time. It's a stupid thought because why shouldn't I have launched a topic on July 28th, 2021 or January 10th, 2022 or ... why now? Of course it's just one of these nonsensical thoughts.

But why this thought and not another? And why "nonsensical"? What is the criterion of "nonsensical"? Why thoughts at all?

Well, that kind of thoughts happen to me. But ... do these thoughts really happen "to me"?

Nevermind. Such things happen if one intends to launch a topic without having the intention to lauch a topic.

I am glad to see that you have launched a topic and it may be that the thoughts which happen in your mind, as opposed to, say, for example, my mind is an important question. Where do thoughts come from and what predisposed each person to have certain trains and tendencies of thoughts. It may be the zone between philosophy and psychology, and the cognitive behavioral thinkers suggest habitual thought patterns, but why? Are thoughts random or is there an underlying order which may go back to nature or nurture, in the processing of experiences? What thoughts are nonsense and what make sense? It may be partly about what works for the individual and how thoughts are regarded by others? But, is that an objective enough distinction of clear thinking or nonsense as a category of thought?

As far as I am concerned I can clearly state that the thoughts that happen to me appear to originate from conditioning through earlier reading, hearing, thinking ... it's connected with language learning and applied language through reading, hearing, conceptual thinking

[JackDaydream]

stevie. Joined: July 19th, 2021, 11:08 am.

I thought I should launch a topic after such a long time. It's a stupid thought because why shouldn't I have launched a topic on July 28th, 2021 or January 10th, 2022 or ... why now? Of course it's just one of these nonsensical thoughts.

But why this thought and not another? And why "nonsensical"? What is the criterion of "nonsensical"? Why thoughts at all?

Well, that kind of thoughts happen to me. But ... do these thoughts really happen "to me"?

Nevermind. Such things happen if one intends to launch a topic without having the intention to lauch a topic.

I am glad to see that you have launched a topic and it may be that the thoughts which happen in your mind, as opposed to, say, for example, my mind is an important question. Where do thoughts come from and what predisposed each person to have certain trains and tendencies of thoughts. It may be the zone between philosophy and psychology, and the cognitive behavioral thinkers suggest habitual thought patterns, but why? Are thoughts random or is there an underlying order which may go back to nature or nurture, in the processing of experiences? What thoughts are nonsense and what make sense? It may be partly about what works for the individual and how thoughts are regarded by others? But, is that an objective enough distinction of clear thinking or nonsense as a category of thought?

As far as I am concerned I can clearly state that the thoughts that happen to me appear to originate from conditioning through earlier reading, hearing, thinking ... it's connected with language learning and applied language through reading, hearing, conceptual thinking

What you are saying is most probably true, in the sense that so much of thought is related to what has been learned. But, what about unusual thoughts and images which seem to arise from nowhere? Perhaps, you don't have the experience of such thoughts. There is also the realm of dreams which are like a series of images and thoughts. They can go beyond what has been thought about consciously and it may be about a subliminal aspect to thoughts and, in my thinking, relate to the collective unconscious. I know that you and many others may wish to throw such 'nonsensical' concepts as the collective unconscious into the philosophy rubbish bin.

[stevie]

stevie. Joined: July 19th, 2021, 11:08 am.

I thought I should launch a topic after such a long time. It's a stupid thought because why shouldn't I have launched a topic on July 28th, 2021 or January 10th, 2022 or ... why now? Of course it's just one of these nonsensical thoughts.

But why this thought and not another? And why "nonsensical"? What is the criterion of "nonsensical"? Why thoughts at all?

Well, that kind of thoughts happen to me. But ... do these thoughts really happen "to me"?

Nevermind. Such things happen if one intends to launch a topic without having the intention to lauch a topic.

I am glad to see that you have launched a topic and it may be that the thoughts which happen in your mind, as opposed to, say, for example, my mind is an important question. Where do thoughts come from and what predisposed each person to have certain trains and tendencies of thoughts. It may be the zone between philosophy and psychology, and the cognitive behavioral thinkers suggest habitual thought patterns, but why? Are thoughts random or is there an underlying order which may go back to nature or nurture, in the processing of experiences? What thoughts are nonsense and what make sense? It may be partly about what works for the individual and how thoughts are regarded by others? But, is that an objective enough distinction of clear thinking or nonsense as a category of thought?

As far as I am concerned I can clearly state that the thoughts that happen to me appear to originate from conditioning through earlier reading, hearing, thinking ... it's connected with language learning and applied language through reading, hearing, conceptual thinking

What you are saying is most probably true, in the sense that so much of thought is related to what has been learned. But, what about unusual thoughts and images which seem to arise from nowhere? Perhaps, you don't have the experience of such thoughts.

Yes, it seems that i can trace all my thoughts to their origin.

There is also the realm of dreams which are like a series of images and thoughts. They can go beyond what has been thought about consciously and it may be about a subliminal aspect to thoughts and, in my thinking, relate to the collective unconscious. I know that you and many others may wish to throw such 'nonsensical' concepts as the collective unconscious into the philosophy rubbish bin.

As far as i am concerned "the realm of dreams" is merely a replication of my conceptual learning.

[stevie]

Yesterday I have been thinking about this and that.

[stevie]

Why does the brain produce thoughts that are completely irrelevant for the survival of the individual organism?

This question is a good example of such thoughts.

[stevie]

Why does the brain produce thoughts that are completely irrelevant for the survival of the individual organism?

This question is a good example of such thoughts.

Nevertheless this brain has been able to produce the expression of these perfectly revealing closing words

This topic can be closed.

[Alan Masterman]

I once had a thought. Turned out I was wrong, though.

[stevie]

I once had a thought. Turned out I was wrong, though.

That's interesting. What has been your measure of "being right" and "being wrong"? I mean to judge "I was wrong" you have to have a validated true measure for "right".

[Alan Masterman]

Gosh, I didn't think of that. Maybe you are right and I was wrong, just as I thought all along.

[stevie]

Maybe you are right and I was wrong...

Maybe or maybe not because the issue still stands:

"What has been your measure of "being right" and "being wrong"? I mean to judge "I was wrong" you have to have a validated true measure for "right".